Planespotting II
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American's way to pressure the government for more money?
AA to suspend service to 15 airports for October.
None scream major market.
AA to suspend service to 15 airports for October.
None scream major market.
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I used to hop Southwest from San Diego to Vegas, San Francisco, sometimes Phoenix, just for a quick weekend to do something different fares were cheap and only an hour flight roughly.
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American's way to pressure the government for more money?
AA to suspend service to 15 airports for October.
None scream major market.
AA to suspend service to 15 airports for October.
None scream major market.
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The huge distances between major population centers, combined with the lack of viable stopping points in between, really dooms US train service in my opinion - especially out west. As an example, to get from SF to LA, you have to run track for over 400 miles, and other than San Jose, there aren't really any cities in between worth stopping at. To try to incorporate more cities, they are planning to detour via Fresno and Bakersfield, which adds to the journey time and the length of track needed. Compare to UK, where you have London-Edinburgh at a similar 400 miles, with the entire country in between! There are major cities all along the route, making it viable. But for flight, all you need is a takeoff and a landing spot - the airports - and you can ignore the vast desert in between. Adding to the fun in CA is the mountain range just north of LA - rising over 4,000 feet (lowest point) and thus requiring either tunnels, or, a major detour.
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Re: Planespotting II
The huge distances between major population centers, combined with the lack of viable stopping points in between, really dooms US train service in my opinion - especially out west. As an example, to get from SF to LA, you have to run track for over 400 miles, and other than San Jose, there aren't really any cities in between worth stopping at. To try to incorporate more cities, they are planning to detour via Fresno and Bakersfield, which adds to the journey time and the length of track needed. Compare to UK, where you have London-Edinburgh at a similar 400 miles, with the entire country in between! There are major cities all along the route, making it viable. But for flight, all you need is a takeoff and a landing spot - the airports - and you can ignore the vast desert in between. Adding to the fun in CA is the mountain range just north of LA - rising over 4,000 feet (lowest point) and thus requiring either tunnels, or, a major detour.
And there is pretty vast distances between major city's and of course western Canada has big mountains, it takes Via Rail something like 12 hours to go from Kamloops to Vancouver, its about a 4 hour drive, and the train doesn't make very many stops between the 2 points, its simply because the train goes really really slow down the mountain.
But flying in Canada is way more expensive so no Southwest, Spirit, or Frontier like fares, its often cheaper to fly Vancouver to China than it is to fly Vancouver to Toronto. I have never actually flown domestically within Canada as the fares are always too high.
I do think I would have quite liked to be born in a country with capability to have good train service, I really enjoy riding on trains, and while I know why the US and Canada can't really have trains, just look to other countries and amazed sometimes how good they have it train wise....
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Re: Planespotting II
The huge distances between major population centers, combined with the lack of viable stopping points in between, really dooms US train service in my opinion - especially out west. As an example, to get from SF to LA, you have to run track for over 400 miles, and other than San Jose, there aren't really any cities in between worth stopping at. To try to incorporate more cities, they are planning to detour via Fresno and Bakersfield, which adds to the journey time and the length of track needed. Compare to UK, where you have London-Edinburgh at a similar 400 miles, with the entire country in between! There are major cities all along the route, making it viable. But for flight, all you need is a takeoff and a landing spot - the airports - and you can ignore the vast desert in between. Adding to the fun in CA is the mountain range just north of LA - rising over 4,000 feet (lowest point) and thus requiring either tunnels, or, a major detour.
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One of my colleagues planned to fly down to Orange County on the inaugural JSX flight until it got cancelled due to C19. He looked at grabbing the train. If I remember correctly, he said getting on at Salinas would be a 14 hour journey down to LA!!!!! I could walk there quicker!
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One of my colleagues planned to fly down to Orange County on the inaugural JSX flight until it got cancelled due to C19. He looked at grabbing the train. If I remember correctly, he said getting on at Salinas would be a 14 hour journey down to LA!!!!! I could walk there quicker!
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In Europe you certainly don't take a flight for speed - "Time to spare, go by air".
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That said the same can be true in the US driving v flying, on the east coast at least. I can drive to DC as quick as flying, because of the time taken to get to the airport, check-in, board, then get a taxi at the other end. I used to drive to Philly as I found the time saving wasn't great and I preferred the flexibility of driving, and I like driving.
Last edited by Pulaski; Aug 21st 2020 at 9:42 pm.
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Re: Planespotting II
One of my colleagues planned to fly down to Orange County on the inaugural JSX flight until it got cancelled due to C19. He looked at grabbing the train. If I remember correctly, he said getting on at Salinas would be a 14 hour journey down to LA!!!!! I could walk there quicker!