Planespotting II

Thread Tools
 
Old Sep 11th 2020, 1:24 am
  #1291  
BE Forum Addict
 
zzrmark's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Location: Lauren's Co. SC by way of Palmetto, Florida
Posts: 3,265
zzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Originally Posted by Pulaski
The B-52's are back at Fairford, or at least they were in August - for "in theatre" training flights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYIWH8rZGR0
It's a goal of mine to see the last one retired from active service before I kark it.
zzrmark is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 1:33 am
  #1292  
Thread Starter
 
Pulaski's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 52,448
Pulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Originally Posted by zzrmark
It's a goal of mine to see the last one retired from active service before I kark it.
I suspect the you're going to be disappointed as I think they are currently being refurbished with an expected operational life extending into the 2050's, and I would be surprised if that isn't extended further in future.
Pulaski is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 1:40 am
  #1293  
BE Forum Addict
 
steveq's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Location: State College Pa.
Posts: 1,585
steveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Originally Posted by Pulaski
I suspect the you're going to be disappointed as I think they are currently being refurbished with an expected operational life extending into the 2050's, and I would be surprised if that isn't extended further in future.
Plans are that the plane will be first to reach 100 year service life. The grandaughters of men who flew them in the 50s are now flying the same tail numbers.
steveq is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 1:54 am
  #1294  
Thread Starter
 
Pulaski's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 52,448
Pulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Originally Posted by steveq
Plans are that the plane will be first to reach 100 year service life. ....
In the USAF, yes - but I'll bet that there will still be DC-3's flying in revenue earning service when their airframe reaches 100 years old, and many of those have 20+ years on the oldest flying B-52's. Today the 100th anniversary of the introduction of the DC-3 is only 16 years away! It's crazy to think that the DC-3 was introduced just 33 years after the Wright brothers' first flight, and yet is was such a good designed that it has pretty much defined the term "stand the test of time".
....The grandaughters of men who flew them in the 50s are now flying the same tail numbers.
Enlist or commission today to work on, or fly, B-52s and you can look forward to a whole career working on that aircraft.

Last edited by Pulaski; Sep 11th 2020 at 2:05 am.
Pulaski is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 1:57 am
  #1295  
BE Forum Addict
 
steveq's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Location: State College Pa.
Posts: 1,585
steveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond reputesteveq has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Originally Posted by Pulaski
I suspect the you're going to be disappointed as I think they are currently being refurbished with an expected operational life extending into the 2050's, and I would be surprised if that isn't extended further in future.
The B52 for you, your children and your childrens' children.......
steveq is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 2:30 am
  #1296  
Stand-up Philosopher
 
caretaker's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Regina Saskatchewan
Posts: 16,344
caretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Originally Posted by steveq
The B52 for you, your children and your childrens' children.......
caretaker is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 2:54 am
  #1297  
BE Forum Addict
 
zzrmark's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Location: Lauren's Co. SC by way of Palmetto, Florida
Posts: 3,265
zzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond reputezzrmark has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Originally Posted by Pulaski
I suspect the you're going to be disappointed as I think they are currently being refurbished with an expected operational life extending into the 2050's, and I would be surprised if that isn't extended further in future.
That was my point.
zzrmark is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 2:59 am
  #1298  
Thread Starter
 
Pulaski's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 52,448
Pulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Originally Posted by zzrmark
That was my point. ....
I did wonder if you meant that you are hoping to live to a ripe old age, rather than hoping to see the B-52 scrapped, which was my first impression.
Pulaski is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 3:07 am
  #1299  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Steerpike's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 13,111
Steerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond reputeSteerpike has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Originally Posted by Pulaski
The B-52's are back at Fairford, or at least they were in August - for "in theatre" training flights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYIWH8rZGR0
That's some good looking wing I like how there's no annoying muzak (other than intro/outro).

Originally Posted by caretaker
And that's some more good looking wing! One of my top 10 all time favorites!

Last edited by Steerpike; Sep 11th 2020 at 3:15 am.
Steerpike is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 11:15 am
  #1300  
Often not so civil...
 
civilservant's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: The Boonies, GA
Posts: 9,561
civilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Question is does for -52 deserve it's nickname? B.U.F.F?

I don't think they are bad looking myself. Better than the F-117 anyway, but not as good as the old Aardvarks or the B-1.
civilservant is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 1:28 pm
  #1301  
Thread Starter
 
Pulaski's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 52,448
Pulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Originally Posted by civilservant
Question is does for -52 deserve it's nickname? B.U.F.F?

I don't think they are bad looking myself. .... .
I'd say BUFF is totally not fair, I rather like it too, and it is clearly a stepping stone from the WWII bombers that went before to modern swept wing designs. But I don't that comparing it to much smaller aircraft is fair either as the B-52 has unique load and range capabilties that put it in an entirely different league from the F-111 and F-117.

I did notice, on checking the Wikipedia article, that the USAF is finally, more than 40 years after it was first considered, planning to award a re-engining contract for the B-52 fleet in May of 2021.
Pulaski is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 1:38 pm
  #1302  
Often not so civil...
 
civilservant's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: The Boonies, GA
Posts: 9,561
civilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

But I don't that comparing it to much smaller aircraft is fair either as the B-52 has unique load and range capabilties that put it in an entirely different league from the F-111 and F-117.
So is it better looking than the Bone then?

I looked at Wiki too, I didn't realize that the last constructed airframe was delivered to USAF in 1963
civilservant is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 1:52 pm
  #1303  
Thread Starter
 
Pulaski's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 52,448
Pulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond reputePulaski has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Originally Posted by civilservant
So is it better looking than the Bone then? ....
The bone is just weird, IMO. Smooth and stretched and unlike anything else - about what you'd expect if you took a contemporary fighter design and scaled it up by nearly 200%.

The B-1 is so different from the B-52 that I couldn't really compare them - I just like the understated menace of the B-52. In many respects it's more like a cargo plane than a bomber, but even with conventional payload you'll know when you've been visited by a Big Stick!
Pulaski is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 1:58 pm
  #1304  
Often not so civil...
 
civilservant's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: The Boonies, GA
Posts: 9,561
civilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

It really is comparing apples and oranges again. They are both long range, heavy strategic bombers, but their missions are very different.

The B-52 is your classic 'send over many aircraft with many bombs because many are going to get shot down' theory of sttrategic bombing from WWII, where is the Bone is 'deep strike, fast, get in, drop a nuke, get out' thinking from the cold war.

I personally prefer the bone, but that primarily is because of the swing-wing.

I miss the Tomcat
civilservant is offline  
Old Sep 11th 2020, 2:13 pm
  #1305  
Stand-up Philosopher
 
caretaker's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Regina Saskatchewan
Posts: 16,344
caretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond reputecaretaker has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Planespotting II

Even though it's jet vs prop I'd compare it to the Tupolevs, for mission similarity and diversity of payloads. When the Russians turned the Bear into a revolver full of cruise missiles everybody had to get that stand-off capability. I'm impressed by the airplanes, but dismayed by the misuse of resources. If Russians and Americans want to show off, instead of constant patrolling, just have a competition, fly them to Sub-Saharan Africa and see who can drop the most food.
caretaker is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.