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-   -   Planespotting (https://britishexpats.com/forum/trailer-park-96/planespotting-742453/)

markonline1 Mar 18th 2014 2:05 pm
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11179280)
Quite right. It's not called a service ceiling for nothing. It's not so much that the plane is certified to go a maximum of 43,100', it simply physically cannot climb any higher than FL431.
Not strictly true. The service ceiling relates to the point where an aircraft can climb at a rate of at least 100fpm, so technically, a 777 would be able to climb higher. Whether it would get up to 45,000 ft, with the tolerances that are built into aircraft, my guess is it would, eventually. Do I think the Malaysian did? Nope. I think the press and the conspiracy theorists are having a field day and it's your standard catastrophic plummet into the ocean. As each day passes though, it looks more and more like we might never know. Thankfully BA use 744's on their SFO - LHR route :D

Pulaski Mar 18th 2014 2:34 pm
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 11179666)
..... Thankfully BA use 744's on their SFO - LHR route
An experimental aircraft? ;)

SultanOfSwing Mar 18th 2014 2:36 pm
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 11179666)
Not strictly true. The service ceiling relates to the point where an aircraft can climb at a rate of at least 100fpm, so technically, a 777 would be able to climb higher. Whether it would get up to 45,000 ft, with the tolerances that are built into aircraft, my guess is it would, eventually. Do I think the Malaysian did? Nope. I think the press and the conspiracy theorists are having a field day and it's your standard catastrophic plummet into the ocean. As each day passes though, it looks more and more like we might never know. Thankfully BA use 744's on their SFO - LHR route :D
Well, I was a bit too absolute in my assertion but I certainly wouldn't want to try taking a fully loaded 777 above FL431, that's for damn sure :nod:

markonline1 Mar 18th 2014 2:38 pm
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11179698)
An experimental aircraft? ;)
Was it? I dunno. At least it hasn't been involved in some weird accident that we may never know the circumstances behind, so I'll take my chances on it till BA stick the 380 on the route :D.

SultanOfSwing Mar 18th 2014 2:40 pm
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 11179703)
Was it? I dunno. At least it hasn't been involved in some weird accident that we never know the circumstances behind, so I'll take my chances on it till BA stick the 380 on the route :D.
I think he was having a laugh, because you used the shorthand form of 747-400.

markonline1 Mar 18th 2014 2:46 pm
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11179701)
Well, I was a bit too absolute in my assertion but I certainly wouldn't want to try taking a fully loaded 777 above FL431, that's for damn sure :nod:
Definitely not. As said earlier, service ceilings are there for a reason.

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11179706)
I think he was having a laugh, because you used the shorthand form of 747-400.
Ha ha, right.

SultanOfSwing Mar 18th 2014 2:50 pm
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 11179711)
Definitely not. As said earlier, service ceilings are there for a reason.
Exactly. I mean, I could go through the ceiling in my house, for example, but I wouldn't recommend it ...

markonline1 Mar 18th 2014 2:53 pm
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11179720)
Exactly. I mean, I could go through the ceiling in my house, for example, but I wouldn't recommend it ...
:lol: :goodpost:

MMcD Mar 18th 2014 5:41 pm
Re: Planespotting
 
OK......(NOT!)

CNN has been breathlessly airing an ongoing "How to Hi-Jack and or Demolish a 777 for Dummies" course over the past week or so.

Lazy, would-be terrorists and suicidal nuts need not bother researching the matter thru endless Googling
CNN makes it concise and it's expert experts insist (by doing what they demonstrate) it's quite simple to carry out.

:sneaky: :thumbdown:

lansbury Mar 18th 2014 6:37 pm
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11178871)
But with the timing and location of the deviation of the flight as the plane "signed off" with Malaysian ATC, and turned off/ destruction of the transponder, all that would be a remarkable coincidence! :huh: The article is certainly persuasive though.
Not sure about the tyre fire. Modern aircraft have automatic fire suppression systems in the wheel bays.

Nutek Mar 18th 2014 10:54 pm
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by MMcD (Post 11179835)
OK......(NOT!)

CNN has been breathlessly airing an ongoing "How to Hi-Jack and or Demolish a 777 for Dummies" course over the past week or so.

Lazy, would-be terrorists and suicidal nuts need not bother researching the matter thru endless Googling
CNN makes it concise and it's expert experts insist (by doing what they demonstrate) it's quite simple to carry out.

:sneaky: :thumbdown:
You used "CNN" and "experts" in a sentence. :lol:

Michael Mar 19th 2014 4:20 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by Nutek (Post 11180112)
You used "CNN" and "experts" in a sentence. :lol:
When the Japanese nuclear power plants blew up, CNN had their expert nuclear consultant on with a nuclear power scientist. The CNN consultant made a statement that workers outside the plants could work a long time without problems since radiation around the plant was only about 8x greater than normal exposure. The scientist shook his head but didn't say anything.

The CNN consultant didn't realize that when they referred to normal radiation exposure, it was referring to an annual rate but the radiation around the plant was per hour.

MMcD Mar 19th 2014 4:31 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by Nutek (Post 11180112)
You used "CNN" and "experts" in a sentence. :lol:
:lol:
sadly, it didn't use to be that way......we didn't use to have "experts"

markonline1 Mar 19th 2014 6:10 am
Re: Planespotting
 
This is why I'm glad I now have Sky News!!!!

Scouse Express Mar 19th 2014 7:18 am
Re: Planespotting
 
Originally Posted by Nutek (Post 11180112)
You used "CNN" and "experts" in a sentence. :lol:

I had to laugh at Richard Quest being the "Expert on Aviation" for CNN. :eek:


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