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Re: Planespotting
Originally Posted by Michael
(Post 11176175)
I think the circle is based on the 7th hour ping indicating that the plane was someplace on the circle during the 7th hour. Since they don't know where the plane was on the circle, the direction of the airplane, and the amount of fuel remaining, the search area would need to account for all of those unknowns. If they could get a second ping from another satellite during the 7th hour, the search area would be significantly narrowed.
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Re: Planespotting
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 11176181)
Ah, so it was on the arc at the seventh hour; that makes sense. The impression I had mistakenly formed was that it had followed the arc.
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Re: Planespotting
On another note - My favourite spot for taking photos at Chicago's O'Hare Airport, Des Plaines Oasis, has been closed and is due to be demolished.
Fuel is still available for now, but, I don't know what the future holds, as it is due to be part of the "Elgin-O'Hare Expressway" expansion plans. |
Re: Planespotting
Originally Posted by Scouse Express
(Post 11176831)
On another note - My favourite spot for taking photos at Chicago's O'Hare Airport, Des Plaines Oasis, has been closed and is due to be demolished.
Fuel is still available for now, but, I don't know what the future holds, as it is due to be part of the "Elgin-O'Hare Expressway" expansion plans. There are some spots around Irving Park Road if I remember correctly though, and if you can find out what runways are in operation, there are good spots on the SIDS and STARS where you should be able to park and snap. I haven't tried any, myself though, I just know when driving around that direction, I have had good views of departing and arriving airliners. Try around Higgins Road and Manheim Road as well. |
Re: Planespotting
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 11176840)
Oh, are they actually going to extend it so it actually goes to Elgin and/or O'Hare?
There are some spots around Irving Park Road if I remember correctly though, and if you can find out what runways are in operation, there are good spots on the SIDS and STARS where you should be able to park and snap. I haven't tried any, myself though, I just know when driving around that direction, I have had good views of departing and arriving airliners. Try around Higgins Road and Manheim Road as well. I'm at Deerfield, right now. Dropped a Group off last night, and spent a night at a Hotel. |
Re: Planespotting
Originally Posted by Scouse Express
(Post 11176862)
So, I will be in a bit a bit early to check out Des Plaines.
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Re: Planespotting
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 11176863)
It is the perfect name for a town right next to an airport, isn't it :D
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Re: Planespotting
A perhaps naive question.
As I was tracking my parents' flight on flightaware.com a friend asked me how it worked suggesting in the light of MH370 all the data was fake simulated data. I assumed it was actual transponder data and was real? |
Re: Planespotting
http:// http://flightaware.com/about/faq#howlive
Its transponder data, delayed by around 30 seconds. |
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Re: Planespotting
'Your mate' clearly doesn't fly commercial airplanes, or is an air traffic controller :)
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Re: Planespotting
Originally Posted by civilservant
(Post 11177634)
'Your mate' clearly doesn't fly commercial airplanes, or is an air traffic controller :)
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Re: Planespotting
Originally Posted by sir_eccles
(Post 11177624)
A perhaps naive question.
As I was tracking my parents' flight on flightaware.com a friend asked me how it worked suggesting in the light of MH370 all the data was fake simulated data. I assumed it was actual transponder data and was real? The navy was using transponder data during WWII to determine if the planes were friendly (IFF - Identification Friend or Foe) and later SIF (Selective Identification Feature). Since it was nothing but a transponder, the hardware was top secret. |
Re: Planespotting
This is the best analysis I have seen so far of the sequence of events and how it could have been achieved.
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Re: Planespotting
Thanks to finding my Roku box (it was attached to the tv the whole time) I now have access to Sky News. Before I went to bed, I was watching the live morning coverage, Kay Burley in Kuala Lumpor (I can think of no worse person to send) and reviewing the morning papers, they had John Nichol. Finally, a proper aviation expert. The producers must have regretted him coming on cause he basically ripped every desperate story to shreds!
The area they are searching is huge so of course it's gonna take a while to find the aircraft. The Air France took 2 years!!!! His point was that every little piece of speculation gets reported and them becomes part of the investigation apparently. The latest is that the co pilot didn't give a full read back to ATC and just said thank you, goodnight. This apparently indicates the PIC intended to commit suicide! As Mr Nichol pointed out, it means no such thing. Everyone has done it. Hell, even I've done it, didn't mean I was about to drive my yellow vehicle into the nearest plane. As he rightly said, the only real piece of concerning evidence so far is the security CCTV that shows Malaysian security is effectively non existent!!!! Anyway, John Nichol spoke the most sense I've yet heard about this aircraft, which means he probably won't be heard from again :lol: |
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