2020 Election
#31
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Joined: Jul 2006
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Re: 2020 Election
I don't think you can beat Ronald Reagan for his ability to deliver a speech. Watch how he addressed the nation (and NASA and schoolchildren in particular) in his address following the Challenger disaster.
It's considered a classic.
It's considered a classic.
#32
Re: 2020 Election
None of this "thoughts and prayers" nonsense. A very well written speech, impeccably delivered: considered and meaningful words, spoken in a tone of respect, even as they were making a very Cold-War-focused political point ("We don’t hide our space program. We don’t keep secrets and cover things up. We do it all up front and in public. That’s the way freedom is, and we wouldn’t change it for a minute.")
How very different from the puerile and barely coherent twitterings of the current incumbent.
#33
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Re: 2020 Election
Just the whole tone is crazy currently. The lack of respect - all round. Trump says something inflammatory. Maxine Waters counters, "shut your mouth". To the POTUS. Wow.
Can you imagine someone saying that 20 years ago? Even 10?
Can you imagine someone saying that 20 years ago? Even 10?
#34
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Re: 2020 Election
Btw, I think this is the first time we have ever agreed on anything. Pat yourself on the back, you commie pinko Marxist Leninist tootle-bag.
#35
Re: 2020 Election
I don't have to imagine. Nine years ago ago, Joe Wilson shouted "you lie" at President Obama during a joint session of congress. I was shocked when that happened ... nothing shocks me any more.
#36
Re: 2020 Election
The quality of the political debate has been in decline for a long time in the US.
Reagan was indeed the Great Communicator. I personally rate ‘A Time for Choosing’ as one of his best, the last five minutes in particular. JFK also was very memorable; his inauguration speech (“Ask not what your country can do for you...”) and his address to Rice University regarding the Apollo space programme. In retrospect Obama was not a particular great orator, despite being lauded as such at the time, it’s just the bar had been set so comparatively low by Bush Jr.
Reagan was indeed the Great Communicator. I personally rate ‘A Time for Choosing’ as one of his best, the last five minutes in particular. JFK also was very memorable; his inauguration speech (“Ask not what your country can do for you...”) and his address to Rice University regarding the Apollo space programme. In retrospect Obama was not a particular great orator, despite being lauded as such at the time, it’s just the bar had been set so comparatively low by Bush Jr.
#37
Re: 2020 Election
The quality of the political debate has been in decline for a long time in the US.
Reagan was indeed the Great Communicator. I personally rate ‘A Time for Choosing’ as one of his best, the last five minutes in particular. JFK also was very memorable; his inauguration speech (“Ask not what your country can do for you...”) and his address to Rice University regarding the Apollo space programme. In retrospect Obama was not a particular great orator, despite being lauded as such at the time, it’s just the bar had been set so comparatively low by Bush Jr.
Reagan was indeed the Great Communicator. I personally rate ‘A Time for Choosing’ as one of his best, the last five minutes in particular. JFK also was very memorable; his inauguration speech (“Ask not what your country can do for you...”) and his address to Rice University regarding the Apollo space programme. In retrospect Obama was not a particular great orator, despite being lauded as such at the time, it’s just the bar had been set so comparatively low by Bush Jr.
#39
Account Closed
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2
Re: 2020 Election
I see Alexandria is not happy about the new Amazon operation in NY.
2020?
The new Obama?
2020?
The new Obama?
#41
Re: 2020 Election
Relative to the current topic (2020), one thing that Trump just may have changed for good is the stupid focus on the personal lives / morality of the candidates. Not that I approve of Trump grabbing p**sy or anything, but maybe from now on, we can stop worrying about whether a candidate smoked pot when he was young, or had a mistress while in the governors mansion, or if she's (shock!) an atheist! That would be the day.
#42
Re: 2020 Election
She’s not very bright, or at least not in control of her brief. She’s sprouted some complete nonsense on the economy despite being an economics graduate. Maybe she can improve? We’ll see.
#43
Re: 2020 Election
Indeed. He was, to be fair, an actor, so delivering prepared lines well in a controlled environment in front of a camera was pretty much his stock-in-trade. He even has the sympathetic-head-tilt thing down to a tee.
None of this "thoughts and prayers" nonsense. A very well written speech, impeccably delivered: considered and meaningful words, spoken in a tone of respect, even as they were making a very Cold-War-focused political point ("We don’t hide our space program. We don’t keep secrets and cover things up. We do it all up front and in public. That’s the way freedom is, and we wouldn’t change it for a minute.")
How very different from the puerile and barely coherent twitterings of the current incumbent.
None of this "thoughts and prayers" nonsense. A very well written speech, impeccably delivered: considered and meaningful words, spoken in a tone of respect, even as they were making a very Cold-War-focused political point ("We don’t hide our space program. We don’t keep secrets and cover things up. We do it all up front and in public. That’s the way freedom is, and we wouldn’t change it for a minute.")
How very different from the puerile and barely coherent twitterings of the current incumbent.
#44
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