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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Wintersong
(Post 12044568)
On the bright side, if he wins we'll be able to abbreviate POTUS to POS. It'll save a few pennies on printer ink, at least.
It's a conspiracy. Paging Gordon Barlow. Paging Gordon Barlow. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 12045028)
The leftover TU = Trump University!
It's a conspiracy. Paging Gordon Barlow. Paging Gordon Barlow. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow
(Post 12044683)
I don't think it's sensible to put all one's faith in the anti-Russia rhetoric of anti-Russia media organs (Washington Post, BBC, etc). Both sides are spouting propaganda, after all. How do we know which one is telling the truth?
To that end you might want to let your handlers know that Greta Van Susteren has just been given the boot by Fox. Hiring her would bring a ton of "fair and balanced" to their media structure. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by MMcD
(Post 11600477)
... best buckle up
The bumpy ride has just begun...... :popcorn: As we hurtle into the final phase I decided to look back through the thread. A year and a half later I can only say my seat belt (see above) is now completely frayed, air bags are about to explode, suspension is shot and I'm already car sick - knowing final stretch of this hair-raiser race will make Monaco's Grand Prix look like kiddy bumper cars.
Originally Posted by sir_eccles
(Post 12045013)
everyone is freaking out about the latest polls.
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Re: 2016 Election
Trump and the Scapegoat Effect | The American Conservative
A fearsome slap at both candidates and their supporters - those who make Trump a scapegoat, and the scapegoat himself. About as balanced an opinion as this campaign has produced. Well worth taking the time to read. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow
(Post 12045460)
Trump and the Scapegoat Effect | The American Conservative
A fearsome slap at both candidates and their supporters - those who make Trump a scapegoat, and the scapegoat himself. About as balanced an opinion as this campaign has produced. Well worth taking the time to read. |
Re: 2016 Election
Ya'll see what that ****ing idiot is doing in the Philippines? That's what the USA is going to look like if we let Trump get elected.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by sir_eccles
(Post 12045465)
I doubt it.
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Re: 2016 Election
Hands up if you are embarrassed by the fact that a vice presidential candidate accepting that the official birthplace of the current president as true is somehow a surprise.
Pence: 'I accept' Obama was born in US | TheHill |
Re: 2016 Election
I didn't watch the town halls last night. Just reading the reports it looks like Matt lauer comes out badly for not correcting Trump's lies about being against the Iraq and Libya invasions.
Also the nytimes seems to be having a tough time recently. They apparently published a report that included the bit about being chums with Putin then redacted it. |
Re: 2016 Election
I see the media are burying Gary Johnson for not knowing what Aleppo is this morning. Just wondering why they haven't done the same to Trump for the last year for not knowing anything.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by zargof
(Post 12046904)
I see the media are burying Gary Johnson for not knowing what Aleppo is this morning. Just wondering why they haven't done the same to Trump for the last year for not knowing anything.
"This morning, I began my day by setting aside any doubt that I’m human. Yes, I understand the dynamics of the Syrian conflict — I talk about them every day. But hit with “What about Aleppo?â€, I immediately was thinking about an acronym, not the Syrian conflict. I blanked. It happens, and it will happen again during the course of this campaign. Can I name every city in Syria? No. Should I have identified Aleppo? Yes. Do I understand its significance? Yes. As Governor, there were many things I didn’t know off the top of my head. But I succeeded by surrounding myself with the right people, getting to the bottom of important issues, and making principled decisions. It worked. That is what a President must do. That would begin, clearly, with daily security briefings that, to me, will be fundamental to the job of being President." |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by sir_eccles
(Post 12046849)
I didn't watch the town halls last night. Just reading the reports it looks like Matt lauer comes out badly for not correcting Trump's lies about being against the Iraq and Libya invasions.
We hear a lot about rules for the candidates, rules for the audience, what about a few rules for those asking the questions? Statements like this from Chris Wallace (Fox Network), who will moderate the final and therefore conceivably, most important debate, don't auger well: "I do not believe it is my job to be a truth squad. It's up to the other person to catch them. ....... I don't view my role as truth squading and I think that is a step too far. If people want to do it after the debate, fine, it’s not my role. " |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by MMcD
(Post 12046962)
The ONLY redeeming thing about last night's travesty will be if it generates a careful re-consideration by the networks of the role of their moderators in the upcoming debates.
We hear a lot about rules for the candidates, rules for the audience, what about a few rules for those asking the questions? Statements like this from Chris Wallace (Fox Network), who will moderate the final and therefore conceivably, most important debate, don't auger well: "I do not believe it is my job to be a truth squad. It's up to the other person to catch them. ....... I don't view my role as truth squading and I think that is a step too far. If people want to do it after the debate, fine, it’s not my role. " |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 12046969)
I have sympathy with Chris Wallace's view in an actual debate where there is an opportunity for the other candidate(s) to point out a person's lies. The problem was that last night wasn't a debate. Thus, absent the moderator intervening, lies went completely "unpunished".
A bald-faced lie is a bald-faced lie. It should not remain unchallenged. |
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