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dc koop Sep 1st 2016 3:46 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Trump's back from Mexico with a cement trowel stuck up his ass. They're not going to pay for his wall

Wintersong Sep 1st 2016 4:10 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12041314)
Trump's back from Mexico with a cement trowel stuck up his ass. They're not going to pay for his wall

He's living in cloud cuckoo land.

"Mexico will pay for the wall. 100%. They don't know it yet, but they're going to pay for the wall."

How on earth does he think he can make them pay for his dumb wall?

Oakvillian Sep 1st 2016 4:10 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Who do we believe? The Mexican President who says "I told him we would not pay for his wall," or Trump who says "the subject didn't come up" - my money is on Enrique Peña Nieto.

dc koop Sep 1st 2016 4:39 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
There was an interesting interview with a couple of California famers on CNN yesterday.

Apparently there's a shortage of fruit pickers. They cant recruit enough of them. This already presents a potential problem in the fruit and veg growing industry. If Trump were ever able to carry out his mass deportation of illegal immigrants who would replace these people who play such a vital part in the agricultural industry ?

Would Americans be willing to work long hours under temperatures of a 100 degrees or more for around 12 dollars an hour ? Doubt it

I could see America having to import an ever increasing amount of food in that case

MMcD Sep 1st 2016 5:36 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Nutmegger (Post 12040648)
Trump stated that the topic of who would pay for a wall "didn't come up" at his meeting with the Mexican president, who has apparently just tweeted that he made it clear right at the start of the meeting that his country wasn't paying!



Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 12041344)
Who do we believe? The Mexican President who says "I told him we would not pay for his wall," or Trump who says "the subject didn't come up"

well...not exactly. Trump's exact words, when asked at the press conference after the meeting with Peña Nieto were: "We didn't discuss who pays for the wall...we didn't discuss"

Peña Nieto later tweeted "Al inicio de la conversación con Donald Trump dejé claro que México no pagará por el muro. ("At the beginning of the conversation with Donald Trump I made it clear Mexico will not pay for the wall")

Later, on Televisa (Mexican television), he reiterated: "Fui claro y enfático en que México no pagará el muro ("I was clear and emphatic that Mexico will not pay for the wall")

so...strictly speaking ( amusing to see Trump's two-step with the truth) it could be said they didn't "DISCUSS" the matter. Because they didn't; there was no 'discussion'. Instead:

The Mexican president made an unequivocal assertion at the start of their meeting - to which Trump, apparently, didn't reply. It's probably safe to assume it was couched amongst several points he raised straight away and (diplomatic negotiator :rolleyes: ) Trump held his cards ("art of the deal"), likely agreeing with non-controversial boiler plate platitudes, instead.

Gordon Barlow Sep 1st 2016 12:33 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
Trump’s Immigration Speech - Persuasion Score | Scott Adams' Blog
A careful endorsement of some of Trump's policies, from Scott Adams. Thoughtful.

zargof Sep 1st 2016 3:13 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
So, apparently Latinos for Trump is a real thing and their spokesperson said that if Trump didn't win there would be taco trucks on every corner.

I don't know about you, but it seems like these Latinos aren't really for Trump.

sir_eccles Sep 1st 2016 3:20 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 12041784)
So, apparently Latinos for Trump is a real thing and their spokesperson said that if Trump didn't win there would be taco trucks on every corner.

I don't know about you, but it seems like these Latinos aren't really for Trump.

I like taco trucks.

MMcD Sep 1st 2016 3:44 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Wintersong (Post 12041343)
He's living in cloud cuckoo land.
"Mexico will pay for the wall. 100%. They don't know it yet, but they're going to pay for the wall."
How on earth does he think he can make them pay for his dumb wall?

His statement is shrouded in diabolical menace.
He's already revealed his strategy...

Using a clause in The Patriot Act relating to 'remittances', if Mexico refuses to pony up - Trump will threaten to abort the flow of the billions of dollars sent on a regular basis by Mexicans living in this country - to their families back in Mexico who depend upon this money for their very subsistence.

Choking off this currency flow would be devastating not just for the hundreds of thousands of Mexican families, but for the Mexican economy overall.

The impact would be volcanic both for our Neighbor as well as for US/Mexican relations overall.

All this was gleefully detailed in a memo sent by Trump in reply to a follow-up question sent to him after an interview with Bob Woodward and Robert Costa at the Washington Post, back in April.

Read more here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...1a3_story.html

scrubbedexpat091 Sep 1st 2016 4:34 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12041375)
There was an interesting interview with a couple of California famers on CNN yesterday.

Apparently there's a shortage of fruit pickers. They cant recruit enough of them. This already presents a potential problem in the fruit and veg growing industry. If Trump were ever able to carry out his mass deportation of illegal immigrants who would replace these people who play such a vital part in the agricultural industry ?

Would Americans be willing to work long hours under temperatures of a 100 degrees or more for around 12 dollars an hour ? Doubt it

I could see America having to import an ever increasing amount of food in that case



Does the US have a program where Mexicans can come on a seasonal basis to work in the fields legally?


During farm season, we have an influx of Mexicans who farms bring in legally seasonally, then when the season is over, they go home, then next year starts over again.

Wintersong Sep 1st 2016 5:16 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by MMcD (Post 12041795)
His statement is shrouded in diabolical menace.
He's already revealed his strategy...

Using a clause in The Patriot Act relating to 'remittances', if Mexico refuses to pony up - Trump will threaten to abort the flow of the billions of dollars sent on a regular basis by Mexicans living in this country - to their families back in Mexico who depend upon this money for their very subsistence.

Choking off this currency flow would be devastating not just for the hundreds of thousands of Mexican families, but for the Mexican economy overall.

The impact would be volcanic both for our Neighbor as well as for US/Mexican relations overall.

All this was gleefully detailed in a memo sent by Trump in reply to a follow-up question sent to him after an interview with Bob Woodward and Robert Costa at the Washington Post, back in April.

Read more here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...1a3_story.html

That flew under the radar, somewhat :ohmy:

SultanOfSwing Sep 2nd 2016 1:52 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 12041786)
I like taco trucks.

I was going to say, that doesn't really sound like a bad thing to me.


Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12041809)
Does the US have a program where Mexicans can come on a seasonal basis to work in the fields legally?

Don't know about the farms but I know we (landscaping) bring in about 100 laborers on H2b visas each year.

Anian Sep 2nd 2016 3:28 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow (Post 12041733)
Trump’s Immigration Speech - Persuasion Score | Scott Adams' Blog
A careful endorsement of some of Trump's policies, from Scott Adams. Thoughtful.

It seems that he failed to take into account that one speech won't make people forget all the dumb crap Trump has said beforehand and therefore think Trump is smart and knowledgeable.

RoadWarriorFromLP Sep 2nd 2016 3:37 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow (Post 12041733)
Trump’s Immigration Speech - Persuasion Score | Scott Adams' Blog
A careful endorsement of some of Trump's policies, from Scott Adams. Thoughtful.

Do your Russian bosses provide you with a nice cubicle?

sir_eccles Sep 2nd 2016 5:19 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Taco Tuesday!



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