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SultanOfSwing Aug 17th 2016 3:11 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12028668)
Hmm just seeing a black stripe now.

Same here.

Buggered if I'm going to stop using Chrome, though.

Oakvillian Aug 17th 2016 3:13 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12028668)
Hmm just seeing a black stripe now.

So am I. There's an open thread on the Site Feedback forum - perhaps you could add your tuppen'orth in there...

http://britishexpats.com/forum/site-...videos-881931/

sir_eccles Aug 17th 2016 3:18 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
I see Breitbart is now running the Trump campaign.

As a friend said, he's a great businessman, time for reorganization maybe followed by chapter 11 and liquidation.

Jerseygirl Aug 17th 2016 3:45 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 12028674)
So am I. There's an open thread on the Site Feedback forum - perhaps you could add your tuppen'orth in there...

http://britishexpats.com/forum/site-...videos-881931/

No problem for me using Safari.

scrubbedexpat099 Aug 17th 2016 3:48 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Not much use if you have a Chromebook.

RoadWarriorFromLP Aug 17th 2016 3:59 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 12028664)
I was rather just trying to persuade Morpeth and RoadWarrior to wind it in a bit on the facts vs feelings issue.

'

Of Morpeth's 400ish posts on this website, I would have to guess that at least a couple of hundred of them must be some version of "I don't trust Hillary Clinton."

I think that we probably figured that out by about the 50th post. As it turns out, it isn't based upon much, which is what I expected.

As far as browsers go, BE and Firefox aren't getting along so well anymore. This probably has more to do with my Firefox settings than BE.

scrubbedexpat099 Aug 17th 2016 4:03 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP (Post 12028730)
'

Of Morpeth's 400ish posts on this website, I would have to guess that at least a couple of hundred of them must be some version of "I don't trust Hillary Clinton."

I think that we probably figured that out by about the 50th post. As it turns out, it isn't based upon much, which is what I expected.

As far as browsers go, BE and Firefox aren't getting along so well anymore. This probably has more to do with my Firefox settings than BE.

All False statements involving Hillary Clinton | PolitiFact

Couple of pages to get you going.

scrubbedexpat099 Aug 17th 2016 4:07 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
HILLARY CLINTON
Says, regarding the presence of classified information in her email, FBI Director James "Comey said my answers were truthful, and what I've said is consistent with what I have told the American people."
— PolitiFact National on Monday, August 1st, 2016

Giantaxe Aug 17th 2016 4:11 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12028741)

Thanks for the link... I see Politifact has Clinton as way more truthful than her opponent, who has half his statements marked as "false" or "pants on fire". Only 13% of Clinton's statements fall into those categories (12% for Obama, 11% for Sanders).

Really, those who try to equivalence Clinton and Trump in honesty are wearing blinkers.

RoadWarriorFromLP Aug 17th 2016 4:25 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12028750)
Really, those who try to equivalence Clinton and Trump in honesty are wearing blinkers.

A lot of this reminds me of guys who abuse their girlfriends and wives by constantly finding fault with them, hoping to browbeat them into submission. The complaints aren't genuine, they're just intended to be manipulative.

I get that Clinton was not under sniper fire. On the other hand, her team had been counseled by the military that they were threatened by sniper fire, so she may have confused what she was told with the actual threat on the ground. It was foolish and wrong, but doesn't rank so highly on the screw-up scale -- it certainly doesn't disqualify someone from being president.

The email server is a non-story. State Department technology sucks, and she came up with her own workaround. Nothing in those emails suggests that she was selling off diplomacy in exchange for donations or having a love triangle with Muslim terrorists, as the Breitbart crowd would have us believe.

So we're back to someone who beats this Clinton-ain't-trustworthy meme like a snare drum for no particularly good reason. In the scheme of things, these are not things to worry about.

Steerpike Aug 17th 2016 4:31 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 12028664)
... I was rather just trying to persuade Morpeth and RoadWarrior to wind it in a bit on the facts vs feelings issue.

...

I was about to post something similar. In a thread known for tangents and tedious posts, this RWLP/Morpeth interaction is setting a new standard. Morpeth just can't seem to stop typing, and RWLP is famous for doggedly and relentlessly making his point.


As you say - just because people are making decisions based on 'instinct' or 'feeling', doesn't negate their vote. Arguing about 'facts' vs 'feelings' in this particular situation is beside the point.

RoadWarriorFromLP Aug 17th 2016 4:45 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Steerpike (Post 12028764)
Arguing about 'facts' vs 'feelings' in this particular situation is beside the point.

It is exactly the point. A lot of bad decision making is driven by people who ignore, invent and exaggerate facts.

You just had a Brexit vote that was driven by emotion, and it has done severe damage to the UK. That's what happens when nobody confronts the lack of thought that fuels these political movements.

scrubbedexpat099 Aug 17th 2016 4:48 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP (Post 12028782)
It is exactly the point. A lot of bad decision making is driven by people who ignore, invent and exaggerate facts.

You just had a Brexit vote that was driven by emotion, and it has done severe damage to the UK. That's what happens when nobody confronts the lack of thought that fuels these political movements.

Huh?

The emotional response was due to facts.

If you want to look at factless assertions look at Remain.

sir_eccles Aug 17th 2016 4:49 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12028784)
Huh?

The emotional response was due to facts.

If you want to look at factless assertions look at Remain.

Not to go off on a tangent, but facts?

Where exactly is the 350m quid a week for the NHS?

zargof Aug 17th 2016 4:53 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12028784)
If you want to look at factless assertions look at Remain.

You mean like Brexit would cause the economy to go tits up? No signs of that? Oh no wait...


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