SultanOfSwing

Warren is a good choice.

Sanders may be better going back to the Senate anyway, now I think of it.

Steerpike

I voted for Clinton in my first ever primary vote yesterday, in CA. I didn't become a citizen till 2010, and always thought primaries were a bit of a waste of time, but this time I decided to go to the polls because I feel strongly that Clinton needs a good mandate from CA. If the most liberal state in the nation votes for her in the primary, with a big majority, should help her case (and delegate count).


Has she won enough delegates to outright beat Sanders, even without the superdelegates at this point; that is - if every superdelegate voted for Sanders, would she still be the winner? If not, can she still achieve that?

sir_eccles

It is a lovely feeling to vote for the first time. Mine was the 2012 presidential election.

I believe she now has a solid majority of pledged delegates but will fall about 100 or so short of an overall majority. Sanders is a further 380 ish behind in pledged delegates and 500 ish behind in supers.

Giantaxe

According to this, nowhere near and no she can't achieve it. I think the only primary left is DC:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...ets/democrats/

RoadWarriorFromLP

There are 4763 delegates, 4051 of which are pledged. About 15% (712) are "superdelegates."


The winner requires a majority, which is 2382 delegates.


DC has not yet voted, which leaves 20 pledged delegates and 26 superdelegates that have not yet been allocated.


Clinton has 2184 pledged delegates, Sanders has 1852.


If Clinton won zero votes in the DC primary, she would need 198 of the 712 superdelegates to win the majority.


If Sanders won zero votes in the DC primary, he would need 530 of the 712 superdelegates to win the majority.


Of the popular votes cast for either Clinton or Sanders, Clinton has won 57% of those, but she has only 54% of the pledged delegates; in spite of all of the whining from the Sanders camp, he has benefited disproportionately from the allocation.


A candidate would need to receive 59% of the pledged delegates in order to avoid the need to win any superdelegates at all. Obviously the system is designed to empower the superdelegates, but that doesn't change the fact that Sanders is losing fair and square.

dc koop

So Sanders speaking from the People's Republic of Santa Monica last night declared he's still in the race. Hard to understand what he sees in continuing unless the support he's getting from young mainly white anti-Hillary and somewhat naïve voters has gone to his 74 year old head.

He would do better than playing Don Quixote and cede victory to Hillary, tell his supporters to get behind Hillary, like it or not and by doing so making sure Trump never, ever gets into the White House

Giantaxe

It's only a week to the last primary in DC, so it probably doesn't make much difference at this point. But if he doesn't cede immediately after that primary it will be unfortunate.

zargof

Laying off most of his campaign staff, requesting meeting with Obama, his surrogates calling for party unity. It looks like he's laying the groundwork behind the scenes.

dc koop

I noticed during his speech last night that when he mentioned Hillary there were several boos from the crowd.

The GOP are tearing themselves to pieces over Trump, Bernie shouldn't be the cause of spreading disunity amongst the Democrats. He needs to step down now, give a word from the wise to the crowd and help Hillary give Trump the ass kicking he deserves in November.

Giantaxe

Meanwhile, the Republicans are doing so poorly in California that for the first time ever two Democrats will be the candidates for Boxer's Senate seat. Which is too bad because I'm underwhelmed by both of them:

Two Democrats compete for Senate seat as Republicans out - BBC News

Giantaxe

Several? It sounded like a chorus to me!

zargof

Bernie Sanders Won't Drop Out Tuesday And Hillary Clinton Didn't Either in 2008 : NPR

Giantaxe

Well sure, but she did concede four days later.

Steerpike

I voted for the 'very first time' in the 2012 presidential election; yesterday was my first ever 'primary' participation.


But in 2012, I was registered in AZ, so voting for a democrat was like pissing in the wind!

Anian

It's a bit weird how Sanders and Warren are suddenly so popular despite not really changing much for a long time. If they had gotten this kind of national support a decade or two ago then they might have had a fighting chance to do a lot of good before their twilight years.