Have not heard it. Have to take a look.

So no response to any of my points other than to Godwin the thread? Also, the oligarchy thing is something that would be said by academics that have actually looked at the data. Funny that.

Lobbying does give a great return on investment.

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Apparently you think i am opposed to change. I am not. I know it is an oligarchy. I know Citizens United even further corrupted the system that was already a slave to cash. Members of Congress are expected to, and do spend 30 hours a week in a phone bank dialing for dollars like telemarketers. It sucks. Our politicians are bought.

You may also think I do not like Sanders or what he believes in...but I do..even though some of it is pie in the sky. My point has merely been that the voters have pretty well spoken...with 1/3 more of them choosing Clinton. It is what it is...and handing the Oval to Trump is not a sane option.

You want change ..a Dem needs to be in the Oval to fill vacancies in SCOTUS...which could result in overturning Citizens United. You want change..give Repub Congressmen the boot. They are, after all, the ones who hand trillion dollar tax cuts to the wealthy. They are, after all, the ones who don't think there should even be minimum wage. They are the ones who cut every program that benefits the poor...the ones who killed the infrastructure bill that would have created millions of jobs. The list goes on.

Cruz has apparently lined up Fiorina as his VP running mate. Not sure how considering Trump is rolling towards a first round ballot win.

They make a good pair...two looney birds.

Cruz may actually have found somebody less likeable than himself.

That would be Hillary or Trump.

There already is a Dem in the White House and what is his latest SCOTUS pick's position on Citizens United? Also, overturning Citizens is a step in the right direction, but you really need to overturn Buckley v. Valeo to fix the problem.

Why is Hillary Clinton who has her nose deepest in the lobbyist's trough going to do anything to overturn Citizens United? To blame everything on Republicans and not think that Democrats aren't complicit in all this is naive. Don't forget that Obama had control of Congress for the first two years* of his presidency, and could have passed a bunch of progressive legislation, but not much happened in the end did it. So why believe that booting out the Republicans now will make that much of a difference?

Look, I'm playing devil's advocate here somewhat. Just trying to explain why someone who supported Sanders could support Trump. Personally I wouldn't, but I get annoyed at the arrogance in the idea that Clinton automatically deserves the votes of Sanders supporters. Clinton has to earn those votes. Plus "yeah but Trump" is a fcking awful reason. At least Trump has the balls to shoot you in the face, while Clinton will stab you in the back.

* I know it wasn't actually two years because reasons, but the point is still valid.

I heard a bit of a discussion on NPR this morning. Suggestion was that a large chunk of Sanders support is Millennial and generally speaking this demographic is polling very anti Trump. I agree that doesn't necessarily translate to pro-Hillary. But I suspect they are educated enough to understand the implications of sitting it out.

I think there could be a surge in popularity for Jill Stein especially in "safe" states. But I expect most will fall in line and vote Clinton.

The polls say otherwise in both cases.

Seen on the internet:

"Now Compaq will only be the second worst merger on her resume."

I wonder if the millennials will actually vote in Nov without Bernie being the dem choice and then Trump (if he is the nominee) gets elected due to low voter turn out. Even he has pointed out that actually voting in real elections is really low in this country due to the lack of faith in government. I can see a lot of young people opting out of voting as they think its fixed anyway. Bernie is still going to be relevant in Nov just to get the vote out, I suspect

I am of the mind that many of his supporters are unfamiliar with voting anyway.

I expect Obama will campaign heavily for HRC and energize the younger voters.