2016 Election
#5956
Then again, the UK is doing its best to out do the US on this one.
Tuition fees: Is England more expensive than US? - BBC News
Tuition fees: Is England more expensive than US? - BBC News
#5957
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No, considering the Clinton campaign publicised the statements themselves.
Bernie Sanders' support for black colleges questioned
What are you trying to do here? Clinton's campaign comes out with some BS about BS. Likewise, Sanders' campaign does the same about Clinton. It's politics.
It seems like you saw the post coming from a conservative poster and dismissed the idea as right wing nonsense. Now you find the idea is being peddled by the Clinton campaign, you're trying to distract from that point.
Bernie Sanders' support for black colleges questioned
What are you trying to do here? Clinton's campaign comes out with some BS about BS. Likewise, Sanders' campaign does the same about Clinton. It's politics.
It seems like you saw the post coming from a conservative poster and dismissed the idea as right wing nonsense. Now you find the idea is being peddled by the Clinton campaign, you're trying to distract from that point.
Last edited by Giantaxe; Mar 15th 2016 at 5:43 am.
#5958
I am uneasy with the Trump label, but could live with it for purposes of these discussions. Trump being a deal maker by nature, might actually be able to work more fruitfully with the opposition than a rigid ideologue like Cruz.
Problem for Trump is that he is being goaded by the Left - including, inter alia, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, and MoveOn.org (and financed by Soros) - into making statements that make him appear to be a bully and a racist. He might be all that, or it might just be that he hasn't yet learned how to handle that pressure, i.e. he doesn't have his politician chops yet.
Problem for Trump is that he is being goaded by the Left - including, inter alia, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, and MoveOn.org (and financed by Soros) - into making statements that make him appear to be a bully and a racist. He might be all that, or it might just be that he hasn't yet learned how to handle that pressure, i.e. he doesn't have his politician chops yet.
#5959
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You know what's funny. Clinton's surrogates have been using this talking point...
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...colleges-obama
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...colleges-obama
If they are concerned that students don't want to attend them for whatever reason, then perhaps it's time to change the schools so that people do want to attend them.
#5960
Problem for Trump is that he is being goaded by the Left - including, inter alia, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, and MoveOn.org (and financed by Soros) - into making statements that make him appear to be a bully and a racist. He might be all that, or it might just be that he hasn't yet learned how to handle that pressure, i.e. he doesn't have his politician chops yet.
#5962
The black colleges are an anachronism in the modern era. It's hard for me to feel nostalgic about what were byproducts of Jim Crow.
If they are concerned that students don't want to attend them for whatever reason, then perhaps it's time to change the schools so that people do want to attend them.
If they are concerned that students don't want to attend them for whatever reason, then perhaps it's time to change the schools so that people do want to attend them.
“We know it’s not issue of whether African-American males have the capability to excel in school; rather, it is their environment that sometimes inhibits their potential,†said Stephanie Reitz, spokeswoman for the university. “At many predominantly white institutions nationwide, elements of African-American culture are harder to find, which can make some students experience a sense of detachment from their universities.†http://www.boston.com/news/education...9CI/story.html
Colleges, whose students are predominantly African-American, may well be providing a valuable service to their community.
#5964
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Then again, the UK is doing its best to out do the US on this one.
Tuition fees: Is England more expensive than US? - BBC News
Tuition fees: Is England more expensive than US? - BBC News
Last edited by Giantaxe; Mar 15th 2016 at 6:19 am.
#5966
#5967
From Spelman to Fisk, the rates are higher than at UConn. The rest are abysmal.
#5969
I said "abysmal." I think the lowest achieving schools should be merged with a public university and given an infusion of new administrators and educators and work on reforms similar to UConn's. All of them need to be improved to emphasize academics and not be simply providing farm teams for professional sports.
What may be at play here is that students who do not qualify for entry to regular universities are admitted to these schools, where they simply fail. The missions of the schools need to be reevaluated and changed, not that the schools should simply be closed.
What may be at play here is that students who do not qualify for entry to regular universities are admitted to these schools, where they simply fail. The missions of the schools need to be reevaluated and changed, not that the schools should simply be closed.
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I actually agree with most of what you say. I would add though that another major issue is that it seems practically any job above the level of barista/burger flipper these days seems to require a minimum of a degree. So for kids that actually want a decent prospect they have no choice to get a degree and be burdened with debt. Why is this? Have these jobs got more difficult? Are high schools churning out worse graduates? Or are employees just demanding more qualified candidates for the same job because they can? I would say it's probably a combination of the three.



