2016 Election
Dec 19th 2015, 5:29 am
#2581
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Re: 2016 Election
Not really much long term history of it running itself, though. I don't really know when the Ottoman colonial rule started, but several hundred years ago. Then you had League of Nations/ British/ French colonial rule followed by "strongmen," mostly our clients. Pity we didn't befriend Nasser instead of going to war with him...
Nasser would have been hard to make friends with. He was an ardent Arab nationalist, anti-British and had ties to the pro Nazi Arab faction in Palestine during WW2
Dec 19th 2015, 9:25 am
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Re: 2016 Election
I think that Syria and Iraq were nations created by the French and British. At the time not much thought seems to have been given to lumping together Muslims of different tribes and sects.
Nasser would have been hard to make friends with. He was an ardent Arab nationalist, anti-British and had ties to the pro Nazi Arab faction in Palestine during WW2
Nasser would have been hard to make friends with. He was an ardent Arab nationalist, anti-British and had ties to the pro Nazi Arab faction in Palestine during WW2
Dec 19th 2015, 10:54 am
#2586
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Re: 2016 Election
Four reasons why Bernie Sanders will not get the Democrat Party nomination
He's a self confessed Socialist. Not a wise word to use in American politics
His ideas are too radical and sound unworkable
He doesn't identify with black and Hispanic voters. To this voting block he's an old white guy who has come out of nowhere. He comes from a State (Vermont) where there are very few minorities
He just looks too old. Ronald Reagan was old when he became President but at least he looked much better preserved that Bernie Sanders does
He's a self confessed Socialist. Not a wise word to use in American politics
His ideas are too radical and sound unworkable
He doesn't identify with black and Hispanic voters. To this voting block he's an old white guy who has come out of nowhere. He comes from a State (Vermont) where there are very few minorities
He just looks too old. Ronald Reagan was old when he became President but at least he looked much better preserved that Bernie Sanders does
Dec 19th 2015, 11:10 am
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Re: 2016 Election
It's interesting, the Democrats hope Trump is the nominee and the Republicans are praying that Bernie somehow steals the nomination from Monica's boyfriend's wife.
It would be very interesting to watch Hamtramck, Michigan's denizens voting for a Jewish Socialist from Brooklyn with family on his father's side who perished in the Holocaust. But they'll do it since being a Democrat trumps absolutely every other influence in your life, even being an adherent of the Religion of Piece.
It would be very interesting to watch Hamtramck, Michigan's denizens voting for a Jewish Socialist from Brooklyn with family on his father's side who perished in the Holocaust. But they'll do it since being a Democrat trumps absolutely every other influence in your life, even being an adherent of the Religion of Piece.
Dec 19th 2015, 11:45 am
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Re: 2016 Election
It's interesting, the Democrats hope Trump is the nominee and the Republicans are praying that Bernie somehow steals the nomination from Monica's boyfriend's wife.
It would be very interesting to watch Hamtramck, Michigan's denizens voting for a Jewish Socialist from Brooklyn with family on his father's side who perished in the Holocaust. But they'll do it since being a Democrat trumps absolutely every other influence in your life, even being an adherent of the Religion of Piece.
It would be very interesting to watch Hamtramck, Michigan's denizens voting for a Jewish Socialist from Brooklyn with family on his father's side who perished in the Holocaust. But they'll do it since being a Democrat trumps absolutely every other influence in your life, even being an adherent of the Religion of Piece.
Dec 19th 2015, 2:20 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
And piece be unto you, Oh Axe of the Giants!
Dec 19th 2015, 2:54 pm
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Dec 19th 2015, 4:07 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
I listened to the debate whilst I painted the bathroom.
In contrast to the Republican event midweek this debate actually sounded like a respectful and dignified discussion. Although there was some disagreement there was none of the embarrassing bickering the likes we saw between Bush and Trump.
I've gained a lot of respect for Bernie, it seems he's dedicated his life to fighting for worthy causes that he believes in passionately. I still don't feel that he has put much thought into international relations, and against a good republican debater he could be slaughtered.
Hillary comes across as being very cool, and very intelligent. She performs consistently well under pressure. From what I've seen of the GOP debates I don't there are any candidates on that side who would come out on top in a debate. Rubio I think might be strongest, but if you put him on a platform with her he'd look very green and very inexperienced.
In contrast to the Republican event midweek this debate actually sounded like a respectful and dignified discussion. Although there was some disagreement there was none of the embarrassing bickering the likes we saw between Bush and Trump.
I've gained a lot of respect for Bernie, it seems he's dedicated his life to fighting for worthy causes that he believes in passionately. I still don't feel that he has put much thought into international relations, and against a good republican debater he could be slaughtered.
Hillary comes across as being very cool, and very intelligent. She performs consistently well under pressure. From what I've seen of the GOP debates I don't there are any candidates on that side who would come out on top in a debate. Rubio I think might be strongest, but if you put him on a platform with her he'd look very green and very inexperienced.
Dec 19th 2015, 9:48 pm
#2592
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Re: 2016 Election
Four reasons why Bernie Sanders will not get the Democrat Party nomination
He's a self confessed Socialist. Not a wise word to use in American politics
His ideas are too radical and sound unworkable
He doesn't identify with black and Hispanic voters. To this voting block he's an old white guy who has come out of nowhere. He comes from a State (Vermont) where there are very few minorities
He just looks too old. Ronald Reagan was old when he became President but at least he looked much better preserved that Bernie Sanders does
He's a self confessed Socialist. Not a wise word to use in American politics
His ideas are too radical and sound unworkable
He doesn't identify with black and Hispanic voters. To this voting block he's an old white guy who has come out of nowhere. He comes from a State (Vermont) where there are very few minorities
He just looks too old. Ronald Reagan was old when he became President but at least he looked much better preserved that Bernie Sanders does
Dec 19th 2015, 11:45 pm
#2593
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Re: 2016 Election
I would replace 2 with that he has not sold himself to the Money men and simply does not have access to the funds required to become president.
Dec 20th 2015, 2:31 am
#2594
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Re: 2016 Election
Okay, let me just get this out of my system....
What the hell is going on with Martin O'Malley's accent? Where does he think he's from? He gets more affected the longer this thing goes on. He reminds me of Peggy Nooooonnnnan with that fake gentility which is just subterfuge to keep everybody from figuring out that you actually have no class.
What the hell is going on with Martin O'Malley's accent? Where does he think he's from? He gets more affected the longer this thing goes on. He reminds me of Peggy Nooooonnnnan with that fake gentility which is just subterfuge to keep everybody from figuring out that you actually have no class.
Dec 20th 2015, 2:38 am
#2595
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Re: 2016 Election
I listened to the debate whilst I painted the bathroom.
In contrast to the Republican event midweek this debate actually sounded like a respectful and dignified discussion. Although there was some disagreement there was none of the embarrassing bickering the likes we saw between Bush and Trump.
I've gained a lot of respect for Bernie, it seems he's dedicated his life to fighting for worthy causes that he believes in passionately. I still don't feel that he has put much thought into international relations, and against a good republican debater he could be slaughtered.
Hillary comes across as being very cool, and very intelligent. She performs consistently well under pressure. From what I've seen of the GOP debates I don't there are any candidates on that side who would come out on top in a debate. Rubio I think might be strongest, but if you put him on a platform with her he'd look very green and very inexperienced.
In contrast to the Republican event midweek this debate actually sounded like a respectful and dignified discussion. Although there was some disagreement there was none of the embarrassing bickering the likes we saw between Bush and Trump.
I've gained a lot of respect for Bernie, it seems he's dedicated his life to fighting for worthy causes that he believes in passionately. I still don't feel that he has put much thought into international relations, and against a good republican debater he could be slaughtered.
Hillary comes across as being very cool, and very intelligent. She performs consistently well under pressure. From what I've seen of the GOP debates I don't there are any candidates on that side who would come out on top in a debate. Rubio I think might be strongest, but if you put him on a platform with her he'd look very green and very inexperienced.
