2016 Election
Jul 12th 2016, 1:36 am
#8387
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Jul 12th 2016, 6:51 am
#8388
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Re: 2016 Election
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/us...=top-news&_r=0
Jul 12th 2016, 2:04 pm
#8389
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Re: 2016 Election
But, but, a good guy with a gun...
Funny how they didn't care much about white protesters carrying guns, but now that black protesters are doing it they are suddenly concerned and the NRA isn't quite as keen to stick up for them.
Funny how they didn't care much about white protesters carrying guns, but now that black protesters are doing it they are suddenly concerned and the NRA isn't quite as keen to stick up for them.
Jul 12th 2016, 3:19 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
Seems like the "open carry mob" are a concern:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/us...=top-news&_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/us...=top-news&_r=0
Jul 12th 2016, 3:27 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
...and anyone with anywhere approaching the normal number of brain cells ought to have been able to see that small difficulty from a thousand miles away. But no, because SECOND AMENDMENT!!!! DON'T YOU MESS WITH MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!!!
Jul 12th 2016, 3:30 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
You guys up in Canada must be having a bit of a laugh at us right now, eh?
Jul 12th 2016, 3:33 pm
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Jul 12th 2016, 3:35 pm
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Jul 12th 2016, 3:57 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
Bernie has, as expected, endorsed Hillary.
Done a decent negotiating job of getting some of his policies on the Dem platform, as well as getting Hillary to incorporate a lot of his college plan into hers, plus both Hillary and Obama remember the idea of a public option in Obamacare.
Done a decent negotiating job of getting some of his policies on the Dem platform, as well as getting Hillary to incorporate a lot of his college plan into hers, plus both Hillary and Obama remember the idea of a public option in Obamacare.
Jul 13th 2016, 12:30 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Pretty sure Notorious RBG has run out of ****s.
Trump Wants Ginsburg Off The Supreme Court ASAP For Criticizing Him
Trump Wants Ginsburg Off The Supreme Court ASAP For Criticizing Him
Jul 13th 2016, 7:24 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Some Bernieistas are just delusional.
READ THIS IF YOU'RE THINKING BERNIE IS FINISHED!!!!
FAQ time:
Q. WHY DID BERNIE ENDORSE HILLARY NOW?
A. They threatened to completey shut him out of the convention if he didn't.
Q. COULDN'T HE HAVE SAID SCREW THEM AND GO FIGHT AT THE CONVENTION ANYWAY?
A. No. Hillary has more delegates, Superdelegates, and supporters on the DNC rules committee. They would have voted down every one of our platforms, denied Bernie the opportunity to speak, and basically shut him out of the entire process. All the leverage he has gained up to this point would be gone.
Q. SO WAIT, BERNIE DIDN'T QUIT TODAY?
A. No. He had to say she won the primary, he endorses her and will help the party defeat Trump, yadda yadda but he DID NOT concede. There is a very big and important difference. Had he conceded, all of his delegates would go to Hillary and he would no longer be an option for nominee.
Q. SO BERNIE CAN ACTUALLY STILL WIN?
A. YES. And if he wasn't still TRYING to win, he would have conceded. The ONLY option he had to get to the convention with his delegates behind him and have a chance to still win was to do what he did today. He is not a traitor. He didn't sell us out. He did the only possible thing he could have done to keep fighting for the nomination.
Q. SO HOW CAN BERNIE STILL WIN IF HE’S LOSING THE DELEGATE COUNT AND HE JUST SAID HE WILL HELP HILLARY WIN THE ELECTION?
A. By far the most important thing to the DNC, even more important than making sure Hillary beats Bernie, is making sure the Democratic nominee beats the Republicans in November. They scrutinize every poll, every opinion of the public, every event to judge whether a candidate is strong enough to win in November. There are A LOT of things going on right now that show how weak of a general election candidate Hillary Clinton is:
- 66% of the country sees her as untrustworthy
- 60% thinks she should have been indicted for the email scandal
- A lot of Bernie supporters won't vote for her
- Congress has requested the Department of Justice investigate her for lying under oath about the email scandal
- There's a possibility more emails will be leaked by wikileaks or hackers further proving her guilt
- Many believe the FBI is secretly investigating the Clinton Foundation
- Her "wins" during the primary have been tainted with accusations of fraud, suppression, lawsuits, and investigations
And then there's Bernie. An honest candidate people trust and whose approval rating and trustworthy rating crushes Clinton's. This is the argument Bernie will make at the convention. With all his 1,900 delegates inside arguing this case and 100,000 supporters outside arguing this case, we hope the DNC realizes he's the only choice. He CAN win the convention, but he has to get there first. That's why he endorsed her today.
Q. SO IT’S STILL IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF HIS DELEGATES GO TO THE CONVENTION AND WE ALL STILL MARCH LIKE WE PLANNED TO DO?
A. Yes! It's more important now than it ever was before.
Q. WHAT IF THE DNC STILL REFUSES TO NOMINATE HIM AT THE CONVENTION? CAN HE STILL RUN THIRD PARTY NOW THAT HE ENDORSED HER?
A. Yes. In fact, running third party has never been an option until AFTER the convention. We need to stick with Bernie and see this through to the convention. He's led us this far. Do NOT abandon him now.
Q. WHAT IF HE LOSES AT THE CONVENTION AND DOESN’T RUN THIRD PARTY, BUT INSTEAD ENDORSES HILLARY 100% AND ASKS US TO VOTE FOR HER?
A. Then our revolution continues without him and we continue to fight against Hillary Clinton and the DNC all the way up to November and beyond by voting for someone like Jill Stein or writing Bernie in. But the time for that is NOT here yet.
Q. SO WHAT DID BERNIE ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS MOVE?
A. Backed into a corner, facing the entire political pressure of the Democratic Party and the DNC, robbed of a right to claim he should be winning if not for a rigged process, and faced with the threat of being shut out of the convention completely Bernie:
1. Managed to stay in the race and secure a prime speaking slot at a contested convention which he can turn into a floor fight
2. Kept all of his delegates to use as leverage in that floor fight
3. Got tens of thousands of people to "Like" and "follow" Green Party candidate Jill Stein on social media
4. Amplified the #NeverHilliary screams of his supporters for all the media and Superdelegates to see 12 days before the convention.
Anyone trashing Bernie today needs to wake up and respect the masterful chess move he just made!!!
AT LEAST GIVE THE MAN YOUR SUPPORT UNTIL THE CONVENTION, HE HAS EARNED THAT MUCH AND HASN’T CONCEDED YET!!!
#StillSanders #BernieOrBust #OurRevolution #NEVERhillary #NEVERtrump
FAQ time:
Q. WHY DID BERNIE ENDORSE HILLARY NOW?
A. They threatened to completey shut him out of the convention if he didn't.
Q. COULDN'T HE HAVE SAID SCREW THEM AND GO FIGHT AT THE CONVENTION ANYWAY?
A. No. Hillary has more delegates, Superdelegates, and supporters on the DNC rules committee. They would have voted down every one of our platforms, denied Bernie the opportunity to speak, and basically shut him out of the entire process. All the leverage he has gained up to this point would be gone.
Q. SO WAIT, BERNIE DIDN'T QUIT TODAY?
A. No. He had to say she won the primary, he endorses her and will help the party defeat Trump, yadda yadda but he DID NOT concede. There is a very big and important difference. Had he conceded, all of his delegates would go to Hillary and he would no longer be an option for nominee.
Q. SO BERNIE CAN ACTUALLY STILL WIN?
A. YES. And if he wasn't still TRYING to win, he would have conceded. The ONLY option he had to get to the convention with his delegates behind him and have a chance to still win was to do what he did today. He is not a traitor. He didn't sell us out. He did the only possible thing he could have done to keep fighting for the nomination.
Q. SO HOW CAN BERNIE STILL WIN IF HE’S LOSING THE DELEGATE COUNT AND HE JUST SAID HE WILL HELP HILLARY WIN THE ELECTION?
A. By far the most important thing to the DNC, even more important than making sure Hillary beats Bernie, is making sure the Democratic nominee beats the Republicans in November. They scrutinize every poll, every opinion of the public, every event to judge whether a candidate is strong enough to win in November. There are A LOT of things going on right now that show how weak of a general election candidate Hillary Clinton is:
- 66% of the country sees her as untrustworthy
- 60% thinks she should have been indicted for the email scandal
- A lot of Bernie supporters won't vote for her
- Congress has requested the Department of Justice investigate her for lying under oath about the email scandal
- There's a possibility more emails will be leaked by wikileaks or hackers further proving her guilt
- Many believe the FBI is secretly investigating the Clinton Foundation
- Her "wins" during the primary have been tainted with accusations of fraud, suppression, lawsuits, and investigations
And then there's Bernie. An honest candidate people trust and whose approval rating and trustworthy rating crushes Clinton's. This is the argument Bernie will make at the convention. With all his 1,900 delegates inside arguing this case and 100,000 supporters outside arguing this case, we hope the DNC realizes he's the only choice. He CAN win the convention, but he has to get there first. That's why he endorsed her today.
Q. SO IT’S STILL IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF HIS DELEGATES GO TO THE CONVENTION AND WE ALL STILL MARCH LIKE WE PLANNED TO DO?
A. Yes! It's more important now than it ever was before.
Q. WHAT IF THE DNC STILL REFUSES TO NOMINATE HIM AT THE CONVENTION? CAN HE STILL RUN THIRD PARTY NOW THAT HE ENDORSED HER?
A. Yes. In fact, running third party has never been an option until AFTER the convention. We need to stick with Bernie and see this through to the convention. He's led us this far. Do NOT abandon him now.
Q. WHAT IF HE LOSES AT THE CONVENTION AND DOESN’T RUN THIRD PARTY, BUT INSTEAD ENDORSES HILLARY 100% AND ASKS US TO VOTE FOR HER?
A. Then our revolution continues without him and we continue to fight against Hillary Clinton and the DNC all the way up to November and beyond by voting for someone like Jill Stein or writing Bernie in. But the time for that is NOT here yet.
Q. SO WHAT DID BERNIE ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS MOVE?
A. Backed into a corner, facing the entire political pressure of the Democratic Party and the DNC, robbed of a right to claim he should be winning if not for a rigged process, and faced with the threat of being shut out of the convention completely Bernie:
1. Managed to stay in the race and secure a prime speaking slot at a contested convention which he can turn into a floor fight
2. Kept all of his delegates to use as leverage in that floor fight
3. Got tens of thousands of people to "Like" and "follow" Green Party candidate Jill Stein on social media
4. Amplified the #NeverHilliary screams of his supporters for all the media and Superdelegates to see 12 days before the convention.
Anyone trashing Bernie today needs to wake up and respect the masterful chess move he just made!!!
AT LEAST GIVE THE MAN YOUR SUPPORT UNTIL THE CONVENTION, HE HAS EARNED THAT MUCH AND HASN’T CONCEDED YET!!!
#StillSanders #BernieOrBust #OurRevolution #NEVERhillary #NEVERtrump
Jul 13th 2016, 1:20 pm
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Jul 13th 2016, 10:10 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
So the Trump campaign is the dumpster fire that keeps giving...
Today's story is that Trump is suing a former staffer Sam Nunberg, who was fired for being too obvious with his racism, after Nunberg spilled the beans on former campaign scumbag and current CNN scumbag Corey Lewandowksi nobbing press secretary Hope Hicks.
Donald Trump Sues Ex-Aide Sam Nunberg for $10M - The Daily Beast
I don't know about the rest of you, but I can't wait until this petty orange freak has access to the nuclear codes.
I did wonder though, what are they making of this over at Fox News, but then I remembered that they have their own problems. Don't forget, the big bossman, and Jabba the Hutt wannabe Roger Ailes is accused of nobbing anything that moves. I did wonder what Sean Hannity had to do to get a job. That was only for a second though before I felt like vomiting.
Today's story is that Trump is suing a former staffer Sam Nunberg, who was fired for being too obvious with his racism, after Nunberg spilled the beans on former campaign scumbag and current CNN scumbag Corey Lewandowksi nobbing press secretary Hope Hicks.
Donald Trump Sues Ex-Aide Sam Nunberg for $10M - The Daily Beast
I don't know about the rest of you, but I can't wait until this petty orange freak has access to the nuclear codes.
I did wonder though, what are they making of this over at Fox News, but then I remembered that they have their own problems. Don't forget, the big bossman, and Jabba the Hutt wannabe Roger Ailes is accused of nobbing anything that moves. I did wonder what Sean Hannity had to do to get a job. That was only for a second though before I felt like vomiting.
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