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They won't tho, and nothing would be done. There is a massive % of people who would be in that category, and that would mean REAL political power.
Fortunately they are all too dumb to do anything to mitigate the abuse they suffer.
Fortunately they are all too dumb to do anything to mitigate the abuse they suffer.
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There is the National Pensioners' Convention.
http://npcuk.org/
And many Pensioners continue to pay tax throughout their lives.
However, I agree that many people do take the attitude you mention.

http://npcuk.org/
And many Pensioners continue to pay tax throughout their lives.
However, I agree that many people do take the attitude you mention.

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Rich pensioners don't usually give a sh'it about the rest, and the vast bulk of pensioners are valueless as far as the gov't is concerned, except at vote time when the politicos will come round to lick the arse of every pensioner they can find, until the election is over and they can go back to ignoring them.
Excuse me, you don't need to be rich to pay tax, the threshold for over-65s is around £10k,you only need an income of more than that to pay tax, I would not call that rich.
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/...nal_allowances
Last edited by scampicat; Oct 18th 2011 at 9:54 pm.
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Excuse me, you don't need to be rich to pay tax, the threshold for over-65s is around £10k,you only need an income of more than that to pay tax, I would not call that rich.
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/...nal_allowances
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/...nal_allowances
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Just what I said, you don't have to be rich to pay tax if you are over 65. Just have an income of over £10k.
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one of the biggest problems with pensions is that a lot of us were well and truly conned. My husband never had the chance to belong to a company pension so took out a private one at the age of 22 years. We were promised £53,000 in cash and £350 per week. What did we get????? NO CASH and only £42 per week. This was with Legal and General. For 10 years I paid £76 per week to Allied Dunbar and I get a one off payment each year of £283. I do get £53 per month company pension but that was another £76 I paid in each month along with my employers contribution. We worked, we paid and got very little. We really thought we were going to be well off. Missed out on the WFA because we moved a couple of months early, missed out on being credited with contributions for the 2 years I had off when my children were born, don't get pension tax credit and because they lost 4 years of my contributions I don't even get a full pension and of course won't be entitled to the basic $140 pension when it starts.
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I've already accepted the fact (along with most others my age) that even if there is still a state pension when I retire it won't be worth having so yeah they may as well go ahead & scrap it sooner rather than later.
From October next year it becomes compulsary for all workers & employers to pay into a pension. With tax relief this equates to 8% of an individuals salary. the state pension can then be phased out without fuss, we'll still pay the same amount of NI but that can be watsed on something else instead.
From October next year it becomes compulsary for all workers & employers to pay into a pension. With tax relief this equates to 8% of an individuals salary. the state pension can then be phased out without fuss, we'll still pay the same amount of NI but that can be watsed on something else instead.
Do not count your chickens etc, many of us have heard this government crap before, somehow it often does not come to fruition. If you really believe what you have written then you have more faith than me.
Graham
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(SNIP)
And we did save for our retirement but the goal posts have moved faster than anyone could have expected, we both worked all of our lives and paid into the system and paid the maximum into private pensions that we could and now savings are disappearing rapidly, so please stop being such a snotty individual.
And we did save for our retirement but the goal posts have moved faster than anyone could have expected, we both worked all of our lives and paid into the system and paid the maximum into private pensions that we could and now savings are disappearing rapidly, so please stop being such a snotty individual.
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Excuse me, you don't need to be rich to pay tax, the threshold for over-65s is around £10k,you only need an income of more than that to pay tax, I would not call that rich.
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/...nal_allowances
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/...nal_allowances
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one of the biggest problems with pensions is that a lot of us were well and truly conned. My husband never had the chance to belong to a company pension so took out a private one at the age of 22 years. We were promised £53,000 in cash and £350 per week. What did we get????? NO CASH and only £42 per week. This was with Legal and General. For 10 years I paid £76 per week to Allied Dunbar and I get a one off payment each year of £283. I do get £53 per month company pension but that was another £76 I paid in each month along with my employers contribution. We worked, we paid and got very little. We really thought we were going to be well off. Missed out on the WFA because we moved a couple of months early, missed out on being credited with contributions for the 2 years I had off when my children were born, don't get pension tax credit and because they lost 4 years of my contributions I don't even get a full pension and of course won't be entitled to the basic $140 pension when it starts.
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I was fortunate to be employed by the NHS, and at that time the NHS pension scheme was one of the best in the UK, and private pension providers wouldn't even talk to me once they realised, but a lot of people were persuaded to give up their NHS pensions in favour of a private onee, these are many of those classed as the missold pension people who got a lot of money back from the companies. Even with that there have been a couple of times when my pension has been frozen for a year 'because they didn't have the money for the increase' this year might be another as pensions are due to increase 5.2% in april
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I was fortunate to be employed by the NHS, and at that time the NHS pension scheme was one of the best in the UK, and private pension providers wouldn't even talk to me once they realised, but a lot of people were persuaded to give up their NHS pensions in favour of a private onee, these are many of those classed as the missold pension people who got a lot of money back from the companies. Even with that there have been a couple of times when my pension has been frozen for a year 'because they didn't have the money for the increase' this year might be another as pensions are due to increase 5.2% in april
http://www.cspa.co.uk/
#120
The civil service pension scheme, along with many other government/local government pension schemes, have been given permission to take the issue of changing the RPI for CPI increases to court. It is a complicated case about misselling, for example if you bought back years you were buying on the basis of RPI increases. It will be interesting to see the outcome.
http://www.cspa.co.uk/
http://www.cspa.co.uk/
It was bad enough that I lost 23% for retiring at sixty (on ill health) my official retirement age... rather than at the 65 they insisted it should be, then on top of that to find they downgraded increases to CPI.




