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Old Aug 21st 2012, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt View Post
Do you ever get the impression this thread is a little beyond your scope for understanding? I only ask because you are not actually discussing it, just trying to pick a fight?
answer the question, you are the one who opened the box, or are you once again proving you are not the subject matter expert you want people to think you are

your conversations were much better when covering the Olympics

I'm going for a tapas not covered by the Quran or Talmud
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answer the question, you are the one who opened the box, or are you once again proving you are not the subject matter expert you want people to think you are

your conversations were much better when covering the Olympics

I'm going for a tapas not covered by the Quran or Talmud
You have, once again, jumped on the outrage bus, it shows the latent xenophobia you have old chap, there is no law being passed by the Global Government or Illuminati, its just one person suggesting that people could tap into the BILLIONS on offer by wealthy muslims. Well done for hitting the stereotype though chap, well done.
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Originally Posted by JLFS View Post
to quote the words of a forum regluar;

If I knew any muslims, which I dont, I could ask them, but as I dont, I cant ................
but I thought that forum regular had Gulf Arab friends.........
and had waited until it was dark at Ramadan..................

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By that rationale vegetarians should stop eating food in restaurants that cook meat right? I know plenty on kitchens who are more than aware of the social sensitivities of vegetarians and run their kitchens on a professional basis accordingly.


As I have said, this is not becoming law people, its not being forced on the good, Christian folk of the world but if you are a struggling restaurant or bar in Spain, why not cash in? If I had somewhere I would be turning it into a halal friendly place and would be advertising where I could!
OK lets say i am the owner of a sturggling Spains restaurant, I would like to gain new custome without too much disruption to the customers I already have.

Would I have to stop serving corizo, magra, pork fillets, lacon, lomo etc if I am to attract muslim customers?

Would they enter my place if they know that non halal food (pork) is being prepared and served.

Is that so hard for you to answer, and would muslims come knowing that I have no real knowledge of the cooking of their typical food?

Would there be any credibility in my restaurant? Because as far as I can see a Brit specialising in Lituanian food would not have much cred.
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but I thought that forum regular had Gulf Arab friends.........
and had waited until it was dark at Ramadan..................

Do you know what is really funny old chap? I have 40 odd friends from here, this forum on Facebook. They all get to see my friends, posts from family, pictures, all sorts of personal information that others on here simply don't have access to and when you say things like that all that happens is they see your attempt at calling me a liar and think less of you. If thats what you want then good on ya, you keep at it, its not making me look like a bitter twat at all.



Yet another thread ruined eh? Well done, well done indeed.
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt View Post
You have, once again, jumped on the outrage bus, it shows the latent xenophobia you have old chap, there is no law being passed by the Global Government or Illuminati, its just one person suggesting that people could tap into the BILLIONS on offer by wealthy muslims. Well done for hitting the stereotype though chap, well done.
who said anything about laws ? twas nah me Jimmy
your idiocy is outweighed only by your wish to turn discussions you lose into personal abuse

I am sure you will be able to tap into the billions that wealthy muslims will put the way of a Jew, please enjoy the wait and let us all know on BE Spain how you get on
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Originally Posted by JLFS View Post
OK lets say i am the owner of a sturggling Spains restaurant, I would like to gain new custome without too much disruption to the customers I already have.

Would I have to stop serving corizo, magra, pork fillets, lacon, lomo etc if I am to attract muslim customers?

Would they enter my place if they know that non halal food (pork) is being prepared and served.

Is that so hard for you to answer, and would muslims come knowing that I have no real knowledge of the cooking of their typical food?

Would there be any credibility in my restaurant? Because as far as I can see a Brit specialising in Lituanian food would not have much cred.
Its pointless me trying to answer you, you're already on the outrage bus and you are not reading what I type. I have been with Arabs in a restaurant while they ate "non muslimaniac" food. From kitchens that handle all sorts of haraam foods. That is the point I have been stressing for three pages now and for three pages you have whine and bitched until now... now I have had to explain my point to you. Halal food is not specific to a particular country. That is what you are failing to understand. KFC can and do, halal chicken. Its still KFC! Subway do halal. Its still a subway.
Can we ALL please get off the outrage bus?
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Originally Posted by Domino View Post
who said anything about laws ? twas nah me Jimmy
your idiocy is outweighed only by your wish to turn discussions you lose into personal abuse

I am sure you will be able to tap into the billions that wealthy muslims will put the way of a Jew, please enjoy the wait and let us all know on BE Spain how you get on
Irony? Much?


Who said I was going to open anything? I am asking a question. Bringing an article to the discussion.

Look what you have done to YET ANOTHER THREAD!
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt View Post
Its pointless me trying to answer you, you're already on the outrage bus and you are not reading what I type. I have been with Arabs in a restaurant while they ate "non muslimaniac" food. From kitchens that handle all sorts of haraam foods. That is the point I have been stressing for three pages now and for three pages you have whine and bitched until now... now I have had to explain my point to you. Halal food is not specific to a particular country. That is what you are failing to understand. KFC can and do, halal chicken. Its still KFC! Subway do halal. Its still a subway.
Can we ALL please get off the outrage bus?
So does that include pork?

YES

NO

Dont know
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Originally Posted by JLFS View Post
So does that include pork?

YES

NO

Dont know
Did I mention pork? Seriously, did I? Read what I wrote, did I mention pork? I have been here too long to let people twist my words (which is what you and the Bigot are trying to do) so stop it and we might be able to go back to discussing the thread rather than a point you are desperately trying to labour to death!
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Did I mention pork? Seriously, did I? Read what I wrote, did I mention pork? I have been here too long to let people twist my words (which is what you and the Bigot are trying to do) so stop it and we might be able to go back to discussing the thread rather than a point you are desperately trying to labour to death!
I have only asked one one question, would muslim customers be prepared to eat in a restaurant where pork dishes are served on the menu along with halal which meets their religious requirements?

Is that so difficult to answer?

All I want to know is if a Spanish/British restaurant is struggling, would they be able to serve halal food to the future customers that you are posting about, (affluent muslims) without having to radically change the existing menu, or would it be considered a total no/no to the muslim customers.

Is that so difficult to answer?

I have not said anthing that could be considered as "being on the outrage bus, I have not called you a liar, I am sticking to my original question from a purely business point of view, as I think you may have a good and valid point.

Of course any business consideration needs to be investigated before investments are made, and I think the mixing of foods is an important issue to be looked into, as spain is a nation of pork lovers.
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I have only asked one one question, would muslim customers be prepared to eat in a restaurant where pork dishes are served on the menu along with halal which meets their religious requirements?

Is that so difficult to answer?

All I want to know is if a Spanish/British restaurant is struggling, would they be able to serve halal food to the future customers that you are posting about, (affluent muslims) without having to radically change the existing menu, or would it be considered a total no/no to the muslim customers.

Is that so difficult to answer?

I have not said anthing that could be considered as "being on the outrage bus, I have not called you a liar, I am sticking to my original question from a purely business point of view, as I think you may have a good and valid point.

Of course any business consideration needs to be investigated before investments are made, and I think the mixing of foods is an important issue to be looked into, as spain is a nation of pork lovers.
... and I have answered it. So many times I have answered it. Might not be the answer you are looking for but I have answered it. One of the questions I have asked you since you are determined to steer the discussion into a fight about restaurants HAVING to adapt is the perfectly valid one about vegetarians. If they cope with meat being prepared and cross contamination is not an issue with the kitchens why is it so hard for you and Admiral Horatio to get that this is simply one person making an observation. A third of the planet wil be muslim in 13 years. Like it or loathe it many will have to start thinking about the future!
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... and I have answered it. So many times I have answered it. Might not be the answer you are looking for but I have answered it. One of the questions I have asked you since you are determined to steer the discussion into a fight about restaurants HAVING to adapt is the perfectly valid one about vegetarians. If they cope with meat being prepared and cross contamination is not an issue with the kitchens why is it so hard for you and Admiral Horatio to get that this is simply one person making an observation. A third of the planet wil be muslim in 13 years. Like it or loathe it many will have to start thinking about the future!
Where have you answered it?

I am not talking about veggies and you know it
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Where have you answered it?

I am not talking about veggies and you know it
What would be good is if you go back and read my replies, and I mean actually read them rather than just glossing over and continuing your bewildering quest for a "yes" or a "no".

Oh and I do know you are not talking about veggies, its an example of what I am talking about and to be fair, whether pork is produced, handled or even used as a mud pack in a kitchen is of no consequence. We are talking about making businesses more halal friendly in order to optimise profits....
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50 odd perent is low for soft drinks compared with the UK. How common is post-mix in Spain as I presume you are talking about bottled coke.
I can't remember ever seeing post mix here. I don't think most drinkers Spanish, British or otherwise would put up with it.
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