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Old Aug 21st 2012, 8:22 am
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Originally Posted by JLFS View Post
You seem to forget one thing, both of you.

Just because a Spanish/British/Norwegian restaurant owner buys halal meat and other products, it does not make them able to cook the recipies using those products. Not good enough for most nationals of the muslim countries to eat there.


If I wanted fish, chips and mushy peas, I would not go to an Italian place, would you?

And if I wanted a nice Indian curry, I would not go to Pacos on the corner, would you?

Horses for courses, I have yet to see an English guy, who has cornered the Hungarian market in Spain (just an example).
You like to compartmentalise your life don't you? Are you aware of the history of Italian immigrants in Scotland? If not, have a look, you'd be surprised....

... as to the other points, if I knew any Arabs, which I obviously don't, I'd say to you that some would quite like the odd roast dinner, others quite like the odd fish and chips and lets not forget that McDonalds operate in many muslim countries... Curry in a bun, memsahib?
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Old Aug 21st 2012, 8:23 am
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You and I both know the return on soft drinks and coffee is far greater than alcohol....
Coffee and tea yes - but soft drinks no - not in Spain anyway.
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If I wanted fish, chips and mushy peas, I would not go to an Italian place, would you?
It's dying away now, but there were a lot of Italian immigrants to the UK in the twentieth century, and they were often to be found as barbers, running cafes and restaurants, and yes fish and chip shops.
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Originally Posted by jimenato View Post
Coffee and tea yes - but soft drinks no - not in Spain anyway.
Are you sure about that? Ok so my experience tends to be mainly in the cities, but I was often surprised that a coke would set me back 2 or 2.50 euros when a beer cost less.
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You like to compartmentalise your life don't you? Are you aware of the history of Italian immigrants in Scotland? If not, have a look, you'd be surprised....

... as to the other points, if I knew any Arabs, which I obviously don't, I'd say to you that some would quite like the odd roast dinner, others quite like the odd fish and chips and lets not forget that McDonalds operate in many muslim countries... Curry in a bun, memsahib?
But the questio is:

Would muslims eat in a place that serves and prepares PIG products in the same kitchen as their halal meals?

I thought it was a simple question, and depending on the answer then one could have more of an opinion as to wether the business plan of going halal would be of any advantage for the business concerned.

Stop skiriting around the question, i am only asking from a business point of view.
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Coffee and tea yes - but soft drinks no - not in Spain anyway.
If that is true then fine but Stuboy is in the UK and I was sort of talking to them...
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Are you sure about that? Ok so my experience tends to be mainly in the cities, but I was often surprised that a coke would set me back 2 or 2.50 euros when a beer cost less.
A coke around here sells for 1.20 and costs 50c to buy. The margin on beer is very variable but on wines and spirits is very high. Food is the best.
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If that is true then fine but Stuboy is in the UK and I was sort of talking to them...
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It's dying away now, but there were a lot of Italian immigrants to the UK in the twentieth century, and they were often to be found as barbers, running cafes and restaurants, and yes fish and chip shops.
You know what i meant, you are just trying to be smart, we are talking about Spain and the italian restaurant dont usually serve English style fish chips and mushies, but you know that already.

The point I was getting across is, although the Italian might give you fish and chips, to get the real stuff made in the range, it would usually have to be in an English place that specialises

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt View Post
You like to compartmentalise your life don't you? Are you aware of the history of Italian immigrants in Scotland? If not, have a look, you'd be surprised....

... as to the other points, if I knew any Arabs, which I obviously don't, I'd say to you that some would quite like the odd roast dinner, others quite like the odd fish and chips and lets not forget that McDonalds operate in many muslim countries... Curry in a bun, memsahib?
Nardinis are the best known example in Scotland I believe..

As for Muslims eating in a place that served pig products and alcohol - this is actually not a problem for many - but they tend to be from the Turkish/Kurdish community. I suspect Muslims from other areas, be it Arab countries or Pakistan etc., would be less tolerant.
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Originally Posted by JLFS View Post
But the questio is:

Would muslims eat in a place that serves and prepares PIG products in the same kitchen as their halal meals?

I thought it was a simple question, and depending on the answer then one could have more of an opinion as to wether the business plan of going halal would be of any advantage for the business concerned.

Stop skiriting around the question, i am only asking from a business point of view.
I have answered your question, you just keep asking it, only changing the question each time..... IF I knew any Arabs, I would tell you that I have sat next to them while they order food and they have happily eaten it. On more than one occasion I have sat with Arabs during Ramadan and out of respect we have waited for sundown before we have food and the restaurant has been happy to wait. Now, what else would you like to know?
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt View Post
I have answered your question, you just keep asking it, only changing the question each time..... IF I knew any Arabs, I would tell you that I have sat next to them while they order food and they have happily eaten it. On more than one occasion I have sat with Arabs during Ramadan and out of respect we have waited for sundown before we have food and the restaurant has been happy to wait. Now, what else would you like to know?
Do they have any objection eating in a place that prepares PORK MEALS ALONG HALAL MEALS, ie in the same kitchen.

where have you answered my question, show me?
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It's dying away now, but there were a lot of Italian immigrants to the UK in the twentieth century, and they were often to be found as barbers, running cafes and restaurants, and yes fish and chip shops.
and most of the bricks made to fuel the post war building boom were made by.......Italians
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Originally Posted by JLFS View Post
Do they have any objection eating in a place that prepares PORK MEALS ALONG HALAL MEALS, ie in the same kitchen.

where have you answered my question, show me?
I have told you several times now, if I actually knew any Arabs, which I don't, I'd tell you that I have sat next to them as they eat food in a restaurant with us non muslims. What are you not getting?
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Originally Posted by jimenato View Post
A coke around here sells for 1.20 and costs 50c to buy. The margin on beer is very variable but on wines and spirits is very high. Food is the best.
50 odd perent is low for soft drinks compared with the UK. How common is post-mix in Spain as I presume you are talking about bottled coke.
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