At war again?
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Whether or not they succeed is entirely up to them, but at least they will have been given the opportunity.
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Nobody can predict exactly how it will pan out, but in the short term the forces have prevented a likely massacre by Gaddafis thugs, and in the long term they will hopefully at least give the Libyans enough freedom to decide their own future.
Whether or not they succeed is entirely up to them, but at least they will have been given the opportunity.
Whether or not they succeed is entirely up to them, but at least they will have been given the opportunity.
TBH there is soooooo much propaganda and rumour, that no one really knows what goes on there. It seems to me that bombing (as careful as they maybe) kills a high proportion of the "wrong" people anyway. If all goes to plan, "we" get rid of their leader, and for all his faults, he is the only leader most know of and his was the only way of life they knew and we leave them to the mercy of so called democracy - but whose democracy and how??? Ours?? As someone just posted here - democracy in the west is democratically voting in a dictator!
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Nobody can predict exactly how it will pan out, but in the short term the forces have prevented a likely massacre by Gaddafis thugs, and in the long term they will hopefully at least give the Libyans enough freedom to decide their own future.
Whether or not they succeed is entirely up to them, but at least they will have been given the opportunity.
Whether or not they succeed is entirely up to them, but at least they will have been given the opportunity.
I believe that the no fly zone is a good idea but the thought of ground troops being placed on Libyan soil would be a disaster.
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The worst case scenario as I see it is, if Gaddafi survives all this some how, he is going to be pretty cross with Europe and America and I bet he would pay for and arrange more Lockerbie type attacks against us in revenge.
#128
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The French have 'won' more wars in Europe than anyone else.
You must be thinking of the Eurovision contest?
Great to see all that money being fired out of a nuclear submarine when so many are on their knees financially in blighty.
You must be thinking of the Eurovision contest?
Great to see all that money being fired out of a nuclear submarine when so many are on their knees financially in blighty.
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There is a difference. Iraq was all based on American lies and the UK's blind, uncritical support for them. The butcher's bill was enormous, and IMO wasted as the work could have been done so much cheaper and easier with far less deaths.
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[QUOTE=jojojojojo;9259132. At least when he's left alone the country can live as it should
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Please tell me you are kidding? The man was using anti aircraft shells against unarmed people. Have you any idea what that is like? Those things are designed to rip metal structures apart. Where one went off next to people, they would be scattered all over the road in kit form.
Let's not forget the building where people went to be tortured, and in several cases disappear, never to be seen again.
So do you really, honestly think that Gaddafi should be left alone to carry out these sorts of atrocities, because that way the country lives as it should????
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Please tell me you are kidding? The man was using anti aircraft shells against unarmed people. Have you any idea what that is like? Those things are designed to rip metal structures apart. Where one went off next to people, they would be scattered all over the road in kit form.
Let's not forget the building where people went to be tortured, and in several cases disappear, never to be seen again.
So do you really, honestly think that Gaddafi should be left alone to carry out these sorts of atrocities, because that way the country lives as it should????
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Please tell me you are kidding? The man was using anti aircraft shells against unarmed people. Have you any idea what that is like? Those things are designed to rip metal structures apart. Where one went off next to people, they would be scattered all over the road in kit form.
Let's not forget the building where people went to be tortured, and in several cases disappear, never to be seen again.
So do you really, honestly think that Gaddafi should be left alone to carry out these sorts of atrocities, because that way the country lives as it should????
Let's not forget the building where people went to be tortured, and in several cases disappear, never to be seen again.
So do you really, honestly think that Gaddafi should be left alone to carry out these sorts of atrocities, because that way the country lives as it should????
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Perhaps if we didn't do this sort of thing in the first place, nobody would feel the need for revenge!
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No, what I'm saying is that if he's as twisted and mad as reported then he'll take out evenmore revenge and commit even more atrocities than before. I dont know enough about the situation there and I doubt any of us do, other than what we hear and read in the media. But I cant help thinking it would have been better to have attacked him more covertly and personally, to send "people" in there to assassinate him, to infiltrate from the inside ???
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