Vaccination
#166
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Re: Vaccination
Why indeed? For the record, I am a firm supporter of vaccination, but have met many over the years who refused to give their kids the MMR jab. The controversy about its safety kicked off at the time my children were of an age to have it, and after much soul-searching I had them both done. Glad I did, especially now that the results of the initial scare-mongering study have been found to be flawed.
#168
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Re: Vaccination
Why indeed? For the record, I am a firm supporter of vaccination, but have met many over the years who refused to give their kids the MMR jab. The controversy about its safety kicked off at the time my children were of an age to have it, and after much soul-searching I had them both done. Glad I did, especially now that the results of the initial scare-mongering study have been found to be flawed.
countries including Britain, probably Spain, keep samples of bugs and diseases for use in biological warfare......something that should be explored in another thread, but I believe there are people out there who are mad enough to actually do it.........
#169
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Re: Vaccination
having followed this thread from the beginning, the one thing that keeps coming back to me is the nightmare that has been explored in a couple of television progs where a bug gets loose on a world unprepared for it and destroys most of civilisation.
countries including Britain, probably Spain, keep samples of bugs and diseases for use in biological warfare......something that should be explored in another thread, but I believe there are people out there who are mad enough to actually do it.........
countries including Britain, probably Spain, keep samples of bugs and diseases for use in biological warfare......something that should be explored in another thread, but I believe there are people out there who are mad enough to actually do it.........
#170
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Re: Vaccination
but then if that is the case it was selective as we still have some of their descendents wandering around, even if we are doing all we can to eradicate them as well
#171
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Re: Vaccination
No. Dinosaurs died out before mammals were the dominant life form. I have no idea when the flu virus evolved as a respiratory infection of mammals, and its ancestral chain stretches back just like ours, but we are certain that it was established in our livestock, and when in the middle ages we lived cheek by jowl with our livestock, it had all the opportunities it needed to add us as a useful host.
#173
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Re: Vaccination
I love the way that dinosaur is used as a term for something outdated. They ruled the earth for MILLIONS of years (We've been around for only a tiny % of that) and we are in danger of wiping ourselves out.
#174
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Re: Vaccination
I did have the first part of the whooping cough vaccine as a baby - which resulted in me turning blue and ceasing to breathe. My mum always told me I was just very sick with it, it was only when I emigrated and got hold of my medical records that I found out I had actually had to be resucitated.
#175
Re: Vaccination
I never had chicken pox, also never had a vaccination against it, don't even know if it was around in the 60s when I was a kid. Just suddenly came down with shingles badly during my first year in Australia.
I did have the first part of the whooping cough vaccine as a baby - which resulted in me turning blue and ceasing to breathe. My mum always told me I was just very sick with it, it was only when I emigrated and got hold of my medical records that I found out I had actually had to be resucitated.
I did have the first part of the whooping cough vaccine as a baby - which resulted in me turning blue and ceasing to breathe. My mum always told me I was just very sick with it, it was only when I emigrated and got hold of my medical records that I found out I had actually had to be resucitated.
sounds like you were a kid at the same time as me - before there were vaccines against the most common childhood illnesses........did your mum & her mates have 'chickenpox' 'mumps' & 'measles' parties - so that you could get them all out of the way before you started school - if the neighbour's kid caught one of them, the entire street went round to play.........
I never did manage to catch mumps......
#176
Re: Vaccination
Why indeed? For the record, I am a firm supporter of vaccination, but have met many over the years who refused to give their kids the MMR jab. The controversy about its safety kicked off at the time my children were of an age to have it, and after much soul-searching I had them both done. Glad I did, especially now that the results of the initial scare-mongering study have been found to be flawed.
I never had chicken pox, also never had a vaccination against it, don't even know if it was around in the 60s when I was a kid. Just suddenly came down with shingles badly during my first year in Australia.
I did have the first part of the whooping cough vaccine as a baby - which resulted in me turning blue and ceasing to breathe. My mum always told me I was just very sick with it, it was only when I emigrated and got hold of my medical records that I found out I had actually had to be resucitated.
I did have the first part of the whooping cough vaccine as a baby - which resulted in me turning blue and ceasing to breathe. My mum always told me I was just very sick with it, it was only when I emigrated and got hold of my medical records that I found out I had actually had to be resucitated.
#177
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Re: Vaccination
Shingles is the resurgence of a previous infection, not a disease in its own right.
#178
Re: Vaccination
Chickenpox in adults is often also worse than in children.
#179
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Re: Vaccination
I have a friend here in Spain that refuses to have his kids vaccinated and he has had trouble getting them accepted into school - although they are there so he has succeeded.
Apparently in some US states children must be vaccinated to be allowed in to school and some Dr's surgeries are insisting that children must be vaccinated else they must find another practice.
Any thoughts?
Apparently in some US states children must be vaccinated to be allowed in to school and some Dr's surgeries are insisting that children must be vaccinated else they must find another practice.
Any thoughts?
I ask, because children in France whose vaccinations aren't for some reason up to date, aren't allowed to go on a day-trip, let alone a week in a foreign country, with their class. Not so much because of the risk of catching children's diseases, but tetanos following an injury.
Just wondered....
#180
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Re: Vaccination
So, to get shingles, first you have to get chicken pox.
I'm pretty sure that any so called 'childhood disease' is more serious whe caught as an adult.