Spain: Paradise lost
Nov 30th 2009 | 5:38 am
#91
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Re: Spain: Paradise lost
Oh dear, buckle up and hold on tight.
Nov 30th 2009 | 6:12 am
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Re: Spain: Paradise lost
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There is a 'fine mess' and the Spanish media are buggered if they will discuss it. QUOTE]
You're right, the fate of tourist or ex-pat homes are almost never discussed in Spanish media. A big fuss is made when a hotel is built illegally, like the one in Cabo de Gata that they were ordered to demolished or the ones around Marbella, but the Spanish media couldnt care less about foreigners living in Spain.
Whenever there is a feature about the British in Spain it is usually about how strange or ugly there are
(I've been watching only Spanish TV for 2.5 years now)
Saying that, there are more Germans or French in Britain than there are Brits in Spain and I cant remember seeing anything in the British media about the French/Germans.
Our media only gives us what we are interested in. Except for the people who directly work in the tourist areas, the Spanish couldnt care less about Brits in Spain and why should they?
On the reverse side, the Brits I know in Spain couldnt even name the Spanish PM
So seems they're not so interested in what happens in Spain either
There is a 'fine mess' and the Spanish media are buggered if they will discuss it. QUOTE]
You're right, the fate of tourist or ex-pat homes are almost never discussed in Spanish media. A big fuss is made when a hotel is built illegally, like the one in Cabo de Gata that they were ordered to demolished or the ones around Marbella, but the Spanish media couldnt care less about foreigners living in Spain.
Whenever there is a feature about the British in Spain it is usually about how strange or ugly there are
(I've been watching only Spanish TV for 2.5 years now)Saying that, there are more Germans or French in Britain than there are Brits in Spain and I cant remember seeing anything in the British media about the French/Germans.
Our media only gives us what we are interested in. Except for the people who directly work in the tourist areas, the Spanish couldnt care less about Brits in Spain and why should they?
On the reverse side, the Brits I know in Spain couldnt even name the Spanish PM
So seems they're not so interested in what happens in Spain either
Nov 30th 2009 | 6:17 am
#93
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Nov 30th 2009 | 6:28 am
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Re: Spain: Paradise lost
Nov 30th 2009 | 6:34 am
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Re: Spain: Paradise lost
Saying that, there are more Germans or French in Britain than there are Brits in Spain and I cant remember seeing anything in the British media about the French/Germans.
Is there something they should be telling us? Are their houses about to be demolished?
Except for the people who directly work in the tourist areas, the Spanish couldnt care less about Brits in Spain and why should they?
On the reverse side, the Brits I know in Spain couldnt even name the Spanish PM
Nov 30th 2009 | 7:59 am
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Re: Spain: Paradise lost
True the spanish couldn't care less about Brits under threat of their houses being demolished. They should do though long term they will suffer the consequences, particularly in regions such as Andalucia. Already the shit has hit the fan, most of the jobs disappearing are in construction or the service sector. Not only are Brits, Germans etc. not buying they are not even coming for a week or so.
I suppose most of you read the spanish forums. Most spanish are in favour of demolitions calling the guiris alcoholics and peverts (wonder how some of our PC members would cope with some of the comments!!). One or two voices of reason though, pointing out that the British residents have brought life and jobs to their small villages.
I know his name too it's Zetaparo!
It won't pick up for a decade at least.
I suppose most of you read the spanish forums. Most spanish are in favour of demolitions calling the guiris alcoholics and peverts (wonder how some of our PC members would cope with some of the comments!!). One or two voices of reason though, pointing out that the British residents have brought life and jobs to their small villages.
I know his name too it's Zetaparo!
It won't pick up for a decade at least.
Nov 30th 2009 | 8:25 am
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Re: Spain: Paradise lost
.....and all this time I thought it was Mr Bean!........
Even my Spanish neighbours call him Mr Bean.
Must admit there is a definite similarity,...both in looks and actions.
Even my Spanish neighbours call him Mr Bean.
Must admit there is a definite similarity,...both in looks and actions.
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Nov 30th 2009 | 8:40 am
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Re: Spain: Paradise lost
The mention of Gib (came up again about 2 days ago, two buceadores arrested for swimming in Gib?Spanish? territorial waters) normally starts them off. But strangely reading a Spanish in UK forum, they generally speak a bit better of us.
Nov 30th 2009 | 9:09 am
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Re: Spain: Paradise lost
I bet there's a lot that don't read their forums and perhaps that's just as well. How many times have I read about Brits telling about their hordes of Spanish friends, how well they get on with everyone, blissfully unaware of a lot of the simmering discontent amongst the locals, without reading some of the hate spewed out in the forums. They all think they love us! The mention of Gib (came up again about 2 days ago, two buceadores arrested for swimming in Gib?Spanish? territorial waters) normally starts them off. But strangely reading a Spanish in UK forum, they generally speak a bit better of us.
The mention of Gib (came up again about 2 days ago, two buceadores arrested for swimming in Gib?Spanish? territorial waters) normally starts them off. But strangely reading a Spanish in UK forum, they generally speak a bit better of us. 
they look at it as a hostile takeover.
Nov 30th 2009 | 9:12 am
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Re: Spain: Paradise lost
True the spanish couldn't care less about Brits under threat of their houses being demolished. They should do though long term they will suffer the consequences, particularly in regions such as Andalucia. Already the shit has hit the fan, most of the jobs disappearing are in construction or the service sector. Not only are Brits, Germans etc. not buying they are not even coming for a week or so.
I suppose most of you read the spanish forums. Most spanish are in favour of demolitions calling the guiris alcoholics and peverts (wonder how some of our PC members would cope with some of the comments!!). One or two voices of reason though, pointing out that the British residents have brought life and jobs to their small villages.
I know his name too it's Zetaparo!
It won't pick up for a decade at least.
I suppose most of you read the spanish forums. Most spanish are in favour of demolitions calling the guiris alcoholics and peverts (wonder how some of our PC members would cope with some of the comments!!). One or two voices of reason though, pointing out that the British residents have brought life and jobs to their small villages.
I know his name too it's Zetaparo!
It won't pick up for a decade at least.
Nov 30th 2009 | 9:36 am
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Re: Spain: Paradise lost
The Spanish still refuse to recognize UK zone around Gib and insist it is international waters.
No we took Gibraltar and the surrounding waters, get over it or start a war, numpties.
Nov 30th 2009 | 9:40 am
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Re: Spain: Paradise lost
I bet there's a lot that don't read their forums and perhaps that's just as well. How many times have I read about Brits telling about their hordes of Spanish friends, how well they get on with everyone, blissfully unaware of a lot of the simmering discontent amongst the locals, without reading some of the hate spewed out in the forums. They all think they love us!
It think it is British to criticise, I have found the Spanish do not take criticism well, maybe the British don't take it well either but that is irrelevant with the comment. When I am working and I see someone Spanish doing something wrong or there is a better way of doing it I always find myself stopping and thinking how to explain that without them taking the knock. I have lost count of the number of times I found myself having to tell them: 'I am not criticising you but if I don't tell you how will you know?' I 'think' I have always looked upon criticism as a way of 'possibly' learning something, after all if someone is not criticised for something how do they learn another way or possibly a better way of doing something... this is not to say that all criticism is to be taken positively but only that all criticism should not be taken negatively.
Just my 2c
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Nov 30th 2009 | 9:48 am
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Re: Spain: Paradise lost
Personally I don't think there is a lot of hate spewed out here, certainly not against the Spanish. Many people interprit comments as hate... I don't know why as that is what they are, comments. Just because you say something against how someone does something, how they are or how they behave does not mean you are directing hate at them. At the end of the day facts are facts, the fact that you speak out about them does not mean you are directing hate at people... disappointment, disgust at something but that does not mean hate, I think if someone living in Spain hated the Spanish the way some people here think they do, they would actually be in the process of moving away, I know if I hated the people of the country I lived in I wouldn't be here for very long.
I think it is British to criticise, I have found the Spanish do not take criticism well, maybe the British don't take it well either but that is irrelevant with the comment. When I am working and I see someone Spanish doing something wrong or there is a better way of doing it I always find myself stopping and thinking how to explain that without them taking the knock. I have lost count of the number of times I found myself having to tell them: 'I am not criticising you but if I don't tell you how will you know?'.
I 'think' I have always looked upon criticism as a way of 'possibly' learning something, after all if someone is not criticised for something how do they learn another way or possibly a better way of doing something or that the thing that they are being criticised for is possibly wrong... this is not to say that all criticism is positive but only that all criticism should not be taken negatively.
I think it is British to criticise, I have found the Spanish do not take criticism well, maybe the British don't take it well either but that is irrelevant with the comment. When I am working and I see someone Spanish doing something wrong or there is a better way of doing it I always find myself stopping and thinking how to explain that without them taking the knock. I have lost count of the number of times I found myself having to tell them: 'I am not criticising you but if I don't tell you how will you know?'.
I 'think' I have always looked upon criticism as a way of 'possibly' learning something, after all if someone is not criticised for something how do they learn another way or possibly a better way of doing something or that the thing that they are being criticised for is possibly wrong... this is not to say that all criticism is positive but only that all criticism should not be taken negatively.
