Originally Posted by The Guy

OK.
Here goes.
Out of the 21 (or so) transponders / frequencies on Astra 1N that carry BBC ITV C4 Fives, and some Sky channels, only five transponders / frequencies have moved from 1N to 2F - this happened this Tuesday.

No BBC channels (apart from the two HD "test channels"), many ITV1 regions, ITV2,3,4, and most of the C4 group of channels have moved yet.

Since 1N is due to be elsewhere, the remaining transponders / frequencies will be moved from 1N sometime.

Now they may move to 2F also.

But as SES posted that only 5 transponders / frequencies would move from 1N to 2F, and "that part of migration is complete", it does suggest that these remaining transponders / frequencies will move onto the second new satellite - Astra 2E. ALso, all other channels (Sky and free) on the other two satellites - Astra 2a and Astra 2B - will also be moving to new satellites - when who knows....

Astra 2E is schedule for a launch "Q1 2013".
The 3rd new satellite, Astra 2G is expected to launch "Q1 2014"

Expect the same 1-2month timescale between launch and channels moving.
And at the moment no-one knows what reception of these next two new satellites will be like in Spain, or what sized dishes will be requried for a stable signal, ...and will not until people start to lose chanenls on their exisitng dishes and installers have done their tests.

So many months to go yet before all the changes are done.

Originally Posted by John & Kath

My SKY+ package is what used to be called the Knowledge Pack + £1 for SKY sports news, do I keep all the Discovery Channels and SKY sports news for instance when all have moved to their new destinations and will BBC1, 2,3,4 be available through my SKY box but not through my Freesat tuner in the TV or will it all depend for both tuners in increasing the dish size to something much bigger?

Originally Posted by The Guy

Sky and Freesat receive their signals for their channels from the same satellites.
BBC1 London on a Sky box uses the same frequency as a Freesat box.
If you cannot gt it on a Sky box as yur dish is too small, a Freesat box will not be able to receive it either.

So yes. "it all depends for both tuners in increasing the dish size to something much bigger"


As for the pay channels - it all depends which beam (UK or European) Sky and the channels decide what beam to put them on.

Discovery UK may be on one beam, and Discovery+1 may be on another beam!

Even now there is a differnce for Sky channels: For example Sky sports 1,2 and 3 are available 24/7 on an 80cmdish in most of Spain. Yet, Sky Sports 4 and Sky Sports News can be unavailable mid afternoon even on some 2.4m dishes in some areas around Alicante. But the HD versions of All Sky Sports channels are available 24/7 on an 80cm dish.

Now if I were Sky, and wanted to milk expats for a bit more money, I would put the SD versions of channels on the harder to receive UK beam, and the HD versions (for which you have to pay an extra £10 per month HD subscription) on the easier to receive European beam. Bascally forcing them to pay more for their channels! It may not be ideal for the customers, but then they are in it to make money, and why not milk it for poeple who are using their cards against their T&Cs!

Originally Posted by Chiclanagir

My neighbour is moaning already that she can´t watch Home and Away. She doesn´t ever use a computer. Now she wants hubbie to get Sky and and HD telly!

Originally Posted by Cazzy1

We use www.filmon.com its free and you get loads of channels

Originally Posted by Chiclanagir

Yes, but it is internet based and for those who are not computer literate that is a waste of time.

Originally Posted by Fred James

Really?

Are you so computer illiterate that you can't type www.filmon.com and select UK TV and then select BBC 1?

It's really that simple. If you can't do that I'm amazed you can manage to post on this forum.

Originally Posted by morlandg

I'm afraid when I do it all I get is a continuous 'Loading' sign!

Originally Posted by Richie1892

Now when we move to Javea in the New Year I just need to discover the best/easiest way to get the football(in any language) and I'll be over the moon too..