Problems in Gibraltar again
#62
For info a map of Territorial waters around Gibraltar:

Some points of interest:
Spain claims a 12 mile limit, Gibraltar only three.
Spain claims a vast area of sea 12 miles around Ceuta
The limit to the west of Gibraltar is less than three miles - it runs down the centre of the bay.

Some points of interest:
Spain claims a 12 mile limit, Gibraltar only three.
Spain claims a vast area of sea 12 miles around Ceuta
The limit to the west of Gibraltar is less than three miles - it runs down the centre of the bay.
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Thanks for that, interesting
How come that Spain got all that around morocco
How come that Spain got all that around morocco
#64
I think you will find that Spain has more than is shown on that map.
She claims fishing rights around the small islands / rocks she has near the Moroccan coast.
She claims fishing rights around the small islands / rocks she has near the Moroccan coast.
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The Moors and the Jews, between them they made Spain what it was. Without their input, they might well be living in caves. Shortest book ever written, Spanish Inventions. I expect we'll get the usual few offered, (submarine????) but really they invented very, very little. They left that all to their fellow Europeans, as Unamuno said, ¡Que inventen ellos! 

Steady on ag. I think you're being a bit harsh there.
I mean they did invent glass bottom boats, so they could view their Navy sitting on the sea-bed.
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Relampago is gonna turn up in such a huffy later!
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The Moors and the Jews, between them they made Spain what it was. Without their input, they might well be living in caves. Shortest book ever written, Spanish Inventions. I expect we'll get the usual few offered, (submarine????) but really they invented very, very little. They left that all to their fellow Europeans, as Unamuno said, ¡Que inventen ellos! 

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The good old Vikings got there long before the others. They rowed and raped and pillaged, and even stayed for a while if the women were pretty.
Having rowed all over the place, quite a few of them settled in Scotland. I've always wondered why. Surely it wasn't because up there even the men walk about in skirts?
Having rowed all over the place, quite a few of them settled in Scotland. I've always wondered why. Surely it wasn't because up there even the men walk about in skirts?
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After a quiet time last night ( was there a football match or something ) an armed Spanish vessel has just made a provocative run through Gib's waters.
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The assumption that Spain owns/can control the waters directly in front of Gib is absurd & would any other country (call it what you will) allow this particularly if its a port, let alone a military based one (or used to be)
To allow this would in effect close the port to all traffic unless permission is granted in the worse case.
IMO the UK should simply sell the bloody place back to the Spanish as it would fetch a tidy few billions.
To allow this would in effect close the port to all traffic unless permission is granted in the worse case.
IMO the UK should simply sell the bloody place back to the Spanish as it would fetch a tidy few billions.
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They could turn to Santander UK I suppose,seeing how they're not normally too fussed about breaking a few regulations.




