Problems in Gibraltar again
May 25th 2012 | 10:04 am
#46
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
Denying the iIslamic history is your script, I have not denied anything, I spoke of an invasion, where they fought against this invasion, and this is to deny something? UK was simply a province of the Roman Empire, nothing else. The jewel of the Roman Empire was called Hispania. Many caesars were born here, like Trajan, or Hadrian (who was who had built a great wall in northern Britain). Spanish philosopher Seneca was to service of the emperor Nero, and was born in Hispalis, currently Seville. Hispanics are the only or one of the few ancient people converted to Roman citizenship, and forged for the roman army weapons as the Gladius Hispaniense (known by experts as the " ancient spanish sword ") which is the one used by the Roman army, when in the second war punic the Hispanic mercenaries rend them with these swords. The hispanics, the best forgers of weapons
You can see this sword in the movie " Gladiator "
http://www.filmsquish.com/guts/files...s/commodus.JPG
You can see this sword in the movie " Gladiator "
http://www.filmsquish.com/guts/files...s/commodus.JPG
May 25th 2012 | 10:16 am
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
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May 25th 2012 | 10:23 am
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
well none of those are moorish
got any more - Charlize or similar ?
got any more - Charlize or similar ?
May 25th 2012 | 10:27 am
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
The fact is that but for the Moors bringing with them all their knowledge and know-how, the Spanish might well still be living in caves,.... though I suppose a few of them still do.
Strange that when the Moors were driven out or on the point of leaving the Spanish insisted that one Moorish family remain behind in each of many villages, because without them they didn't have a clue with regard to agriculture and many other important aspects of every day living.
May 25th 2012 | 10:28 am
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
and whoever took the Catherine Zeta foto needs a redeye filter
May 25th 2012 | 10:40 am
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
Maybe,
The fact is that but for the Moors bringing with them all their knowledge and know-how, the Spanish might well still be living in caves,.... though I suppose a few of them still do.
Strange that when the Moors were driven out or on the point of leaving the Spanish insisted that one Moorish family remain behind in each of many villages, because without them they didn't have a clue with regard to agriculture and many other important aspects of every day living.
The fact is that but for the Moors bringing with them all their knowledge and know-how, the Spanish might well still be living in caves,.... though I suppose a few of them still do.
Strange that when the Moors were driven out or on the point of leaving the Spanish insisted that one Moorish family remain behind in each of many villages, because without them they didn't have a clue with regard to agriculture and many other important aspects of every day living.
I did not know that we lived in caves, before the arrival of the Muslims. I am very surprised with you. So Surprised, that you don't know that is not here urged defeated muslims to stay. They were told that if they wanted to stay, were to convert to Christianity, then is not what you says
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May 25th 2012 | 5:41 pm
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
In those days if someone came too close to your coast in a hostile manner they received a cannon ball.
Spain refuses to accept the UNITED NATIONS CONVENTION ON THE LAW OF THE SEA only in respect of Gibraltar
May 25th 2012 | 5:58 pm
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
Are you referring to Bank Deposits from dodgy sources like Spanish Mayors?
Gibraltar is deemed to be part of the UK for the purposes of the EU Savings Directive and thus will exchange information with other EU countries such as Spain and the UK.
Or are you referring to Gibraltars claim to be VAT / IVA free which it is,however it does have the old fashioned Import Duty.
http://www.gibraltarlaws.gov.gi/articles/2003s057.pdf
I can buy items Duty Free in Spain such as cars, does that make Spain a Tax Haven?
May 25th 2012 | 6:10 pm
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
"The Catholic King, does for Himself, His Heirs and Successors yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire property of the City and Castle of Gibraltar together with the port, defences and fortifications belonging thereto. And he give up the said property to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manners of right for ever without any exception or impediment whatsoever"
Spain says that it is only observing the Treaty of Utrecht (funny how it refers to the treaty when it wants to).
'Estamos defendiendo una legalidad marcada por el Tratado de Utrecht sobre unas aguas que corresponden al Estado español', said Spain's vice-president yesterday.
The same treaty, splendid document that it no doubt is, also stipulates that neither Jews nor Muslims may sleep overnight in Gibraltar.
I wonder if they still insist on that particular rule...?
Spain says that it is only observing the Treaty of Utrecht (funny how it refers to the treaty when it wants to).
'Estamos defendiendo una legalidad marcada por el Tratado de Utrecht sobre unas aguas que corresponden al Estado español', said Spain's vice-president yesterday.
The same treaty, splendid document that it no doubt is, also stipulates that neither Jews nor Muslims may sleep overnight in Gibraltar.
I wonder if they still insist on that particular rule...?
May 25th 2012 | 7:26 pm
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
Piratas! Give back Minorca and we will let you have the fishing waters! (You know, when you stop robbing our fish in Cornwall!)
May 25th 2012 | 8:34 pm
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
"The Catholic King, does for Himself, His Heirs and Successors yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire property of the City and Castle of Gibraltar together with the port, defences and fortifications belonging thereto. And he give up the said property to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manners of right for ever without any exception or impediment whatsoever"
Spain says that it is only observing the Treaty of Utrecht (funny how it refers to the treaty when it wants to).
'Estamos defendiendo una legalidad marcada por el Tratado de Utrecht sobre unas aguas que corresponden al Estado español', said Spain's vice-president yesterday.
The same treaty, splendid document that it no doubt is, also stipulates that neither Jews nor Muslims may sleep overnight in Gibraltar.
I wonder if they still insist on that particular rule...?
Spain says that it is only observing the Treaty of Utrecht (funny how it refers to the treaty when it wants to).
'Estamos defendiendo una legalidad marcada por el Tratado de Utrecht sobre unas aguas que corresponden al Estado español', said Spain's vice-president yesterday.
The same treaty, splendid document that it no doubt is, also stipulates that neither Jews nor Muslims may sleep overnight in Gibraltar.
I wonder if they still insist on that particular rule...?
Didnt the Chinese Emperor say something similar when ceding to Queen Victoria and her descendents in perpetuity Kowloon North of Boundary Street and Stonecutters Island.
or as Sean Connery said "Never Say Never...."
May 25th 2012 | 8:43 pm
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oCqq...feature=colike John Pilger's documentary of how the Brits tossed out the inhabitants of Diego Garcia.
Power, hey?
Power, hey?
May 25th 2012 | 9:06 pm
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
At the time of the Treaty of Utrecht no country had territorial waters, that is why there is no mention in the Treaty
In those days if someone came too close to your coast in a hostile manner they received a cannon ball.
Spain refuses to accept the UNITED NATIONS CONVENTION ON THE LAW OF THE SEA only in respect of Gibraltar
In those days if someone came too close to your coast in a hostile manner they received a cannon ball.
Spain refuses to accept the UNITED NATIONS CONVENTION ON THE LAW OF THE SEA only in respect of Gibraltar
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May 25th 2012 | 9:53 pm
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Re: Problems in Gibraltar again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oCqq...feature=colike John Pilger's documentary of how the Brits tossed out the inhabitants of Diego Garcia.
Power, hey?
Power, hey?
