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Old May 25th 2012 | 9:07 am
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Originally Posted by Lenox
It's true enough - 'The name Gibraltar is the Spanish derivation of the Arabic name Jabal Tāriq (جبل طارق), meaning "mountain of Tariq"' (Wikipedia).
Still and all - it's the right of the people who live there to live there in peace.
My own solution for the conflict - make Spain (unemployment rate 25%) part of Gibraltar (1.8% unemployment) , instead of the other way round.
Call the place Giberia.
The right to live in peace, is to comply with the treaty of Utrecht, not usurp lands and waters that are not theirs, and let in peace to their Spanish neighbors. This is living in peace

Oh yeah, obviously, if in my small town (which curiously, has more or less the same people that Gibraltar) we were a tax haven, certainly there would be no unemployment, and would we get money even under of the stones
 
Old May 25th 2012 | 9:11 am
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This is getting interesting so I am moving it to PDT so you can indulge yourselves!
I want a 'like' button!!
 
Old May 25th 2012 | 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by Relampago
The right to live in peace, is to comply with the treaty of Utrecht, not usurp lands and waters that are not theirs, and let in peace to their Spanish neighbors. This is living in peace

Oh yeah, obviously, if in my small town (which curiously, has more or less the same people that Gibraltar) we were a tax haven, certainly there would be no unemployment, and would we get money even under of the stones
OK, if we adhere to the Treaty can we have Minorca back please?
 
Old May 25th 2012 | 9:12 am
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Thousands of spanish words are arabic...a few here

http://spanish.about.com/cs/historyo...bicwords_2.htm
 
Old May 25th 2012 | 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by Relampago
The right to live in peace, is to comply with the treaty of Utrecht, not usurp lands and waters that are not theirs, and let in peace to their Spanish neighbors. This is living in peace
You've just said the waters don't belong to Gibraltar, only the harbour, which one is it?
 
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Not to mention the food - most of which is Arabic or Jewish!
 
Old May 25th 2012 | 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by Fred James
Not to mention the food - most of which is Arabic or Jewish!
You only have to look at the Spanish obsession with pork to see the legacy the Moors and Jews left with Spain
 
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
Thousands of spanish words are arabic...a few here

http://spanish.about.com/cs/historyo...bicwords_2.htm
Yes, and many words also are Roman. As also in the English language, many words are Roman, and what? What is the problem?
 
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
You only have to look at the Spanish obsession with pork to see the legacy the Moors and Jews left with Spain
Everything you and is yours, you convert in a virtue, and of Spain in default, what is the problem of Spain with other cultures? Is there no traces of other cultures in the UK, as Roman ruins?

I don't know what you mean exactly with the pig...
 
Old May 25th 2012 | 9:36 am
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Originally Posted by Relampago
Everything you and is yours, you convert in a virtue, and of Spain in default, what is the problem of Spain with other cultures? Is there no traces of other cultures in the UK, as Roman ruins?

I don't know what you mean exactly with the pig...
I am proud of the mix of culture in Britain, deeply proud of it, I am proud that the only country the Romans desired more than any was Britain, proud of the history and melting pot we have here, I am equally ashamed of a couple of dark parts of our history but I don't shy away from it, I embrace it. You should stop denying your Islamic history, it gave you a rich and varied history.


As to the pig, after the Reconquista and the bloody persecution of the Jews and Muslims people were forced to eat pork on a regular basis as proof of their "Christianity" and their neighbours were encouraged to denounce them.
 
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Originally Posted by Fred James
Not to mention the food - most of which is Arabic or Jewish!
In serious? It is truth? I didn't know it, what surprise! I have a certainty, that British gastronomy do not make shade to the spanish gastronomy. Have I said British gastronomy? If the UK does not have gastronomy ... Well yes, I want to eat a Sephard Pie, I would love it, but outside of the Shepard Pie, any other suggestions?
 
Old May 25th 2012 | 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by Relampago
In serious? It is truth? I didn't know it, what surprise! I have a certainty, that British gastronomy do not make shade to the spanish gastronomy. Have I said British gastronomy? If the UK does not have gastronomy ... Well yes, I want to eat a Sephard Pie, I would love it, but outside of the Shepard Pie, any other suggestions?
Why do you always compare? No one here is comparing, we are discussing, all you ever do is compare.
 
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It would be very easy for the Spanish to take back Gib by force. Just "disappear" the Barbary Apes...

A popular belief holds that as long as Gibraltar Barbary Macaques exist on Gibraltar, the territory will remain under British rule. In 1942 (during World War II), after the population dwindled to just a handful of individuals (just seven monkeys), British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill ordered that their numbers be replenished immediately from forest fragments in both Morocco and Algeria because of this traditional belief
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary...s_in_Gibraltar
 
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
I am proud of the mix of culture in Britain, deeply proud of it, I am proud that the only country the Romans desired more than any was Britain, proud of the history and melting pot we have here, I am equally ashamed of a couple of dark parts of our history but I don't shy away from it, I embrace it. You should stop denying your Islamic history, it gave you a rich and varied history.


As to the pig, after the Reconquista and the bloody persecution of the Jews and Muslims people were forced to eat pork on a regular basis as proof of their "Christianity" and their neighbours were encouraged to denounce them.
Denying the iIslamic history is your script, I have not denied anything, I spoke of an invasion, where they fought against this invasion, and this is to deny something? UK was simply a province of the Roman Empire, nothing else. The jewel of the Roman Empire was called Hispania. Many caesars were born here, like Trajan, or Hadrian (who was who had built a great wall in northern Britain). Spanish philosopher Seneca was to service of the emperor Nero, and was born in Hispalis, currently Seville. Hispanics are the only or one of the few ancient people converted to Roman citizenship, and forged for the roman army weapons as the Gladius Hispaniense (known by experts as the " ancient spanish sword ") which is the one used by the Roman army, when in the second war punic the Hispanic mercenaries rend them with these swords. The hispanics, the best forgers of weapons

You can see this sword in the movie " Gladiator "

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Funny how many spaniards want to deny their strong Moorish background...is it a racist thing
 


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