I have to agree that the EU isn't turning out to be the utopic democracy it was cracked up to be. I'm often chastised for posting such blasphemous rhetoric, but to this day, nobody has been able to answer the question of whether you voted for von Rompuy, Barroso, Merkel or Sarkozy, all of which are the top players determining the fate of all membership states and their citizens (including you and I). Not one of them is burdened with accountability to EU voters (excepted: Merkel for Germany and Sarkozy for France).

Hardly a democracy. We can't vote them in or out. We simply have to live with whatever they dream up.

Yes that seems to be the thrust of Farage's argument they have to answer to no one. We go and fight wars all over in the name democracy and then allow this to happen I find it very worrying and does make you wonder where it will all end. Unless they get some sort of miracle cure to this mess I fear that the worm will turn. Let's face it can't be right when you get a Greek professional worker Pharmacist I believe who in protest at the austerity being forced up on him shoots himself outside their parliament! As for Osbornes money to the IMF he played the same game making sure it was just under the amount he would have had to go to Parliament with to sacntion. It is a disgrace that so called democratic countries act in this way and that we all put up with it.

I agree with all of that, but can't think of an alternative to the 'democracy' we have. It produced Brown and Rumpy and the others. And we still have Kings shooting elephants and Princes' hugging trees.

I've often voted for political parties who came into power, and found myself cursing the people I voted for only a few months later.

I voted for Blair in '97, and stood in Hyde Park with a million others when the horrible man took us into an unjust war.

And nobody voted for Mervyn, the BoE is a private company.

Agree, unelected, they answer to no one, accounts never signed off, if the UK or Spain was run on these lines, the people would take to the streets, there'd be chaos, but for some inexplicable reason people just seem to lie down and take anything the EU chooses to throw at them.