Whether you agree with his opinions or not (and I'm thinking that most in Europe do not), it is evident that most MEP's find him amusing, or is that the fat Eurocrats who have not been elected eg Barossa, are laughing because they've got away with it and know that no-one can so anything about it?

ps Greece were in trouble because few pay tax on their "incomplete" properties

ps Greece were in trouble because few pay tax on their "incomplete" properties[/QUOTE]

Tony was the fact that Greece didn't pay tax on their incomplete properties kept from those that let them in the Euro? because when I lived in Cyprus in 1978 they did the same then and it wasn't kept a secret. The whole thing needs seriously looking at surely can't go on like this As for Farage amusing the MEP's well a lot don't look too amused to me in that clip.

That German prat, Mr Angry, Shultz, often comes in for an attack by Farage, I don't see him laughing either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSqCkQ4J80M

No, I thought some of them looked very uncomfortable

Another link re Farage and his views but not him berating the MEPs but an interview very long but interesting what he believes time will tell if he is proved correct.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Dle...eature=related

18% of French people voted for the National Front yesterday in the first presidential election round. A barometer of European thinking?

Well, France is at the middle of it all, not so much Germany because of its convoluted history, though if they didn't have their internal anti-Nazi laws, the result would probably be much the same.

So, perhaps much to the British Right movement's surprise, the Europeans are even more opposed to the idea of a United Europe than they are.

It doesn't bode well for the EU future, but we live in a democracy and if that's what the people want, then so be it. Foreigners Raus! I might have to start packing after all.

I think Daniel Hannon is in many ways a more credible version of Farage.

Tony was the fact that Greece didn't pay tax on their incomplete properties kept from those that let them in the Euro? because when I lived in Cyprus in 1978 they did the same then and it wasn't kept a secret. The whole thing needs seriously looking at surely can't go on like this As for Farage amusing the MEP's well a lot don't look too amused to me in that clip.[/QUOTE]
I think part of my point was that Barosso was laughing, the ELECTED members were uncomfortable, also doesn't the incomplete prop's in Greece/Cyprus prove my point, i.e. this was well known about, but still admitted to Euro ?
p.s. how do people in Europe feel about the other countries (eg Poland etc.) joining the Euro/ will this drag the Euro down?

Cheers Tony we are obviously discussing the same point apologies I miss read your post. Re your final point I myself feel that the EU is spreading it's net too far Turkey and many of the other East European countries, look at the problems the Soviet Union had running them let alone what happened to Germany when it tried moving too far east!

Yes not as rabid as farage

Hi Bob, I totally agree with what you say. I hope that the Euro survives, as it will have an effect on world finance, and will put the (Europe-wide) recovery (and I include U.K. in that), back if it doesn't. It's difficult to know how to proceed, I feel that manufacturing is the answer, it's where China, and to a lesser extend India, are succeeding, it produces jobs, and stimulates the individual economies, and perhaps I.T. industries (Japan), who knows?

Yes Tony I think the jury is out at the moment time will tell

Yeh, I mentioned him earlier in the thread, he tells it like it is, but in a more "refined" sort of way.

Ah the guy who hates the NHS, and claims it produces some of the worst health outcomes in the industrialised world - put right by this article

http://www.nextleft.org/2009/04/fact...an-on-nhs.html

But we don't live in a democracy do we? Isn't that the whole point of the anti-EU argument - unelected, untouchable ex-Goldman-Sachs bankers feathering their own nests. Greece - unelected leader, Italy - unelected leader, even the UK - how many people voted to give the IMF another 10 billion? How many people voted to allow Mervyn King to magically produce 350 billion pounds into existence?