Phone hacking hypocrisy
Jul 9th 2011, 10:28 pm
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Jul 9th 2011, 10:36 pm
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Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
It takes Two bully boys (and one a concierge), just because I pointed out a wild exaggeration made by one, WOW 
Jul 9th 2011, 10:49 pm
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Jul 10th 2011, 4:24 am
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Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
I read today that the NOW has/had the highest circulation in the world
I know I will get slammed for this but is all this hacking stuff such a big deal for the ordinary person? We have had emotive stuff coming out every few hours, Milly Dowlers phone hacked, the mccanns, 7/7 victims (all wrong I know) but it is what newspapers do and why people buy them. Take the Dowler family, their lawyer is criticising the hacking but what about the Father who lied for a long time about his whereabouts that day thus wasting police time, was he any better
If newspapers didn't hack and pay for information we would have never known what a crooked bunch the MP's were, or that members of the royal family were willing to sell themselves. Would it be in the publics interest for newspapers to be censored and not pry?
Also what about the phone companies who earn billions, why aren't their lines made safer to hacking. If some sleazy PD can do it there must be hundreds more out there who can hack and sell the information.
I know I will get slammed for this but is all this hacking stuff such a big deal for the ordinary person? We have had emotive stuff coming out every few hours, Milly Dowlers phone hacked, the mccanns, 7/7 victims (all wrong I know) but it is what newspapers do and why people buy them. Take the Dowler family, their lawyer is criticising the hacking but what about the Father who lied for a long time about his whereabouts that day thus wasting police time, was he any better
If newspapers didn't hack and pay for information we would have never known what a crooked bunch the MP's were, or that members of the royal family were willing to sell themselves. Would it be in the publics interest for newspapers to be censored and not pry?
Also what about the phone companies who earn billions, why aren't their lines made safer to hacking. If some sleazy PD can do it there must be hundreds more out there who can hack and sell the information.
The trouble lies with the censors, the concierges and other guardians of what is good for the people to read.
Did they get it right in this case? Can you hack the Royals, murder victims, top politicians and pop stars?
Murdoch said No and closed the paper. You can't argue with Murdoch, he is the top man.
Jul 10th 2011, 7:26 am
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Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
What applies to the editor applies to the owner in spades.
Either Murdoch knew all about it, in the which case he did nothing to stop it, is thus complicit and is therefore not fit to wield that sort of power.
Or, he knew nothing, did not control his business properly and is thus not a fit person.
Stupid or corrupt?
Jul 10th 2011, 8:13 am
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Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
I think there is even more than this, circulation of papers is falling because we read online versions, this has started something new, if a story appears in the mail for example with David Cameron said this, if its unpopular and a lot of negative comments are posted the story disappears,not possible in the printed version, and if a story appears about the economy in the standard only comments agreeing are appearing , this is very new, as for reading text messages its happened for years, there was the story of someone famous I cant remember who a pop star of some sort, he sent a text message saying it went like a bomb and an armed police unit came to his house, when I lived in England I had software called "did they read it?" installed this software which I dont know if it even exists any more told me the second and email was opened and where, and also for how long for, all my emails to Italy were being opened in east London and sometimes India, I am not important or a terrorist so it probably happens to all emails to Italy, maybe its automated looking for key words
Jul 10th 2011, 8:59 am
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Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
No, but you can declare him an unfit person to run the empire he seeks to gain.
What applies to the editor applies to the owner in spades.
Either Murdoch knew all about it, in the which case he did nothing to stop it, is thus complicit and is therefore not fit to wield that sort of power.
Or, he knew nothing, did not control his business properly and is thus not a fit person.
Stupid or corrupt?
What applies to the editor applies to the owner in spades.
Either Murdoch knew all about it, in the which case he did nothing to stop it, is thus complicit and is therefore not fit to wield that sort of power.
Or, he knew nothing, did not control his business properly and is thus not a fit person.
Stupid or corrupt?
He's obviously clearing the decks hoping to take over BskyB with a clean sheet and everything else swept under the carpet.
For me the powers that be should step in now and put the block on him for the next five years at least, in view of the fact that the regulations state that such media organisations should only be run by a fit and proper person, in addition to the fact that it would create an increased monopoly situation regardless of whichever way they screw it around and try and dress it up as otherwise.
Somehow I have a feeling that the backscratching will quietly continue behind the scenes as normal and the slimy turd will end up in full control of virtually everything we receive in our living rooms via the magic box.
Jul 10th 2011, 9:03 am
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Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
So now its gone... who will start up the campaigns? Who will push for things like "Sarah's Law"?
Jul 10th 2011, 9:18 am
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Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
With Murdoch do we have shades of Elliot Carver of Carver Media Group Network ??
Jul 10th 2011, 9:26 am
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Jul 10th 2011, 9:32 am
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Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
NoW has bit the dust, possibly in name only, however the Murdoch Empires main prize is full control of the Sat business which brings in a massive income compared to the tabloid news.
He's obviously clearing the decks hoping to take over BskyB with a clean sheet and everything else swept under the carpet.
For me the powers that be should step in now and put the block on him for the next five years at least, in view of the fact that the regulations state that such media organisations should only be run by a fit and proper person, in addition to the fact that it would create an increased monopoly situation regardless of whichever way they screw it around and try and dress it up as otherwise.
Somehow I have a feeling that the backscratching will quietly continue behind the scenes as normal and the slimy turd will end up in full control of virtually everything we receive in our living rooms via the magic box.
He's obviously clearing the decks hoping to take over BskyB with a clean sheet and everything else swept under the carpet.
For me the powers that be should step in now and put the block on him for the next five years at least, in view of the fact that the regulations state that such media organisations should only be run by a fit and proper person, in addition to the fact that it would create an increased monopoly situation regardless of whichever way they screw it around and try and dress it up as otherwise.
Somehow I have a feeling that the backscratching will quietly continue behind the scenes as normal and the slimy turd will end up in full control of virtually everything we receive in our living rooms via the magic box.
as granny used to say "money talks" and those who have will always be providing a fortnight on an island in the Carib or on a private boat to those who sign the approvals.
Jul 10th 2011, 9:34 am
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Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
NoW has bit the dust, possibly in name only, however the Murdoch Empires main prize is full control of the Sat business which brings in a massive income compared to the tabloid news.
He's obviously clearing the decks hoping to take over BskyB with a clean sheet and everything else swept under the carpet.
For me the powers that be should step in now and put the block on him for the next five years at least, in view of the fact that the regulations state that such media organisations should only be run by a fit and proper person, in addition to the fact that it would create an increased monopoly situation regardless of whichever way they screw it around and try and dress it up as otherwise.
Somehow I have a feeling that the backscratching will quietly continue behind the scenes as normal and the slimy turd will end up in full control of virtually everything we receive in our living rooms via the magic box.
He's obviously clearing the decks hoping to take over BskyB with a clean sheet and everything else swept under the carpet.
For me the powers that be should step in now and put the block on him for the next five years at least, in view of the fact that the regulations state that such media organisations should only be run by a fit and proper person, in addition to the fact that it would create an increased monopoly situation regardless of whichever way they screw it around and try and dress it up as otherwise.
Somehow I have a feeling that the backscratching will quietly continue behind the scenes as normal and the slimy turd will end up in full control of virtually everything we receive in our living rooms via the magic box.
Basically he will end up as the one in the graveyard who died with the most toys.
Jul 10th 2011, 9:39 am
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Re: Phone hacking hypocrisy
Yeah, my bet is that no politician will dare to go against Murdoch as the old man has a long memory, and come the next election, god help the political party that dares to call for Murdoch's head.
Basically he will end up as the one in the graveyard who died with the most toys.
Basically he will end up as the one in the graveyard who died with the most toys.
