Originally Posted by jimenato

I think it was C'man who said something like 'you're confusing junk food with unhealthy food'. I nearly spat my chemical filled San Miguel all over my laptop when I read that...

Originally Posted by Fred James

I am still struggling with the idea that Macfries have sugar on them for extra flavor. Salt, vinegar, MSG, ketchup but SUGAR?

Originally Posted by JLFS

Well I would not define a home made loaf as processed simply because the flour is processed, which is what you are saying.

You are also saying then, than anything that contians flour, like a good roast beef with home made gravy is a processed meal because of the flour, same goes for anything that contains salt, pepper and other spices, because they are also processed.

I just find that whole rigmarole of dissecting a dish into its individual ingredients and coming to the conculsion that it is "processed food" because it has flour in it, not only futile but also stupid.

Because almost everything we eat and drink is "processed" from coffee, tea, herbal teas, wines, vinegar, all have been throug a process to arrive in the state we buy them in the shops.

Originally Posted by cricketman

My wife is lactose intollerant, so we've had to cut out nearly all processed foods, including cheap chorizo. Can only buy the good stuff now. We eat much better for it

Originally Posted by jackytoo

All this healthy stuff is ok. but can anyone tell me why Spanish peasants...eer countryfolk, look about 20 years older than their city dwellers

Originally Posted by jimenato

Oo-er that's a toughie particularly here in Spain. No cheese!

Originally Posted by jackytoo

All this healthy stuff is ok. but can anyone tell me why Spanish peasants...eer countryfolk, look about 20 years older than their city dwellers

Originally Posted by ononno

Because most of us (in Italy anyway) live 20 years longer. Just been scanning the local necrology notices; ages at death - 83, 87, 91, 94, 76, 86 - get the drift? My Donna C has just had her 81st. and is fitter and has more energy than most city women at 50!. Physically that is; unfortunately the big AZ is creeping in.
'luego,
'o nonno

Originally Posted by agoreira

There are plenty of exceptions, nobody below 83? Curious, I just looked up the average life expectancy figures, and surprise surprise, Italy and UK tie at position 13 with 80.5 years. But due to the healthy eating in Spain, to the much vaunted Mediterranean diet, you can live for a whole 4 months longer until 80.9.

Originally Posted by johnnyone

Isn't this all about eating a balanced diet, whatever country you live in.

Originally Posted by agoreira

There are plenty of exceptions, nobody below 83? Curious, I just looked up the average life expectancy figures, and surprise surprise, Italy and UK tie at position 13 with 80.5 years. But due to the healthy eating in Spain, to the much vaunted Mediterranean diet, you can live for a whole 4 months longer until 80.9.

Originally Posted by Fredbargate

Maybe it's not the diet but the more relaxed lifestyle

Originally Posted by agoreira

Yes, it might be a more relaxed lifestyle, but apart from a few months, they aren't living any longer. Spain for all it's heralded easy living, fantastic healthy diet, average life expectancy is 5 months longer than UK. Not long is it? I don't imagine the lifestyles of people in the cities and people in the countryside of Spain, Italy or UK are hugely different when it comes to stress.