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Old Jul 29th 2012 | 12:22 am
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This report (in Spanish) says that 200 malagueños emigrate each month to find work. 10,000 have left since the crisis began.


http://www.diariosur.es/v/20120729/m...-20120729.html



Here is one story of a couple who moved to Oxford. He is working in a bar and learning English. As he says, In the UK you get every help if you have children and our rent is paid.

http://www.diariosur.es/v/20120729/m...-20120729.html
 
Old Jul 29th 2012 | 12:42 am
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
This report (in Spanish) says that 200 malagueños emigrate each month to find work. 10,000 have left since the crisis began.


http://www.diariosur.es/v/20120729/m...-20120729.html



Here is one story of a couple who moved to Oxford. He is working in a bar and learning English. As he says, In the UK you get every help if you have children and our rent is paid.

http://www.diariosur.es/v/20120729/m...-20120729.html
Good luck to him
 
Old Jul 29th 2012 | 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by stuboy
Good luck to him
Indeed, takes a brave man, or in this case a desperate man, to uproot his family, and not even speaking the language. Good luck to him, he deserves it. There are two Spanish friends I know here in UK, both came with very little English, both are now teachers, one working for the nearest university. I'm sure he'll achieve similar success, he deserves to.
 
Old Jul 29th 2012 | 7:00 pm
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Only problem is there are about 10 million too many people in the UK already, don't think the country can absorb many more it isn't a huge place, y'know.
 
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
This report (in Spanish) says that 200 malagueños emigrate each month to find work. 10,000 have left since the crisis began.


http://www.diariosur.es/v/20120729/m...-20120729.html



Here is one story of a couple who moved to Oxford. He is working in a bar and learning English. As he says, In the UK you get every help if you have children and our rent is paid.

http://www.diariosur.es/v/20120729/m...-20120729.html
well with Malaga having a population (2011) of just over 568,000 it is going to take a long time until it is empty - at that rate 236 years !!

pity local papers don't print good luck stories about other nationalities who have left their home country to set up in Spain and made a success of their lives - or is that all a pipe dream ??
 
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Originally Posted by britishbull
Only problem is there are about 10 million too many people in the UK already, don't think the country can absorb many more it isn't a huge place, y'know.
And despite that, the man has arrived there with his family, got himself a rent free house and a job, he's not complaining. Spain is much less populated, but it counts for nothing if you can't get a job.
 
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
This report (in Spanish) says that 200 malagueños emigrate each month to find work. 10,000 have left since the crisis began.


http://www.diariosur.es/v/20120729/m...-20120729.html



Here is one story of a couple who moved to Oxford. He is working in a bar and learning English. As he says, In the UK you get every help if you have children and our rent is paid.

http://www.diariosur.es/v/20120729/m...-20120729.html
interesting that in the United Kingdom it is possible to have a job and have your rent paid by the state.
is it small wonder that so many people want to go to the UK to get benefits they haven't contributed to. ?
but I suppose he can have all those I have paid for and never taken so perhaps he will wear a tee shirt saying I have sponsored him ! !
 
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I don't believe the story actually says that. When he arrived he had a room in a shared flat - that sounds like basic B & B to me. It doesn't say that now he has work his rent is paid for - it also seems to imply that he has moved. Not enough accuraate information to come to serious conclusions.
 
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Originally Posted by rspltd
I don't believe the story actually says that. When he arrived he had a room in a shared flat - that sounds like basic B & B to me. It doesn't say that now he has work his rent is paid for - it also seems to imply that he has moved. Not enough accuraate information to come to serious conclusions.
which varies a bit dependent on the Spanish to English translator you use
 
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Originally Posted by rspltd
I don't believe the story actually says that. When he arrived he had a room in a shared flat - that sounds like basic B & B to me. It doesn't say that now he has work his rent is paid for - it also seems to imply that he has moved. Not enough accuraate information to come to serious conclusions.
Try reading it again, Rafael Serrano, su mujer y sus dos hijos viven en una casita en Oxford, en una calle privada It clearly says they started in a flat, of course he has moved. It also says el Estado nos paga el alquiler present tense, not past tense, that would indicate the rent is still being paid. Whatever the facts, it's an awful lot more help than they would get in any other EU country.
 
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Originally Posted by Domino
which varies a bit dependent on the Spanish to English translator you use
I find it pitiful that you can't translate it yourself, it's pretty simple Spanish. How long have you been in Spain? Have a few hours off a day from writing in forums and get studying some Spanish.
 
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Originally Posted by agoreira
I find it pitiful that you can't translate it yourself, it's pretty simple Spanish. How long have you been in Spain? Have a few hours off a day from writing in forums and get studying some Spanish.
who says that I can't translate it myself - what I said was

Originally Posted by Domino
which varies a bit dependent on the Spanish to English translator you use
as they put different interpretations on various words that make the story different

but then I Seem To Recall you are one of those who thought I should be conjugating my verbs when all I wanted to know was how to ask for a cup of coffee.
you should know by now it isnt knowing the word it is how to say it "properly" so you are understood, especially with the diverse accents just here in Granada Province letalone in the rest of Spain.
but things have moved on, after all it is now a huge 6 months since I came out here, I was actually having coffee with the Abogado next door last week, discussing the pleasant music playing in our favourite bar whilst the local Ford repair shop were fixing a puncture in my car.

and with all your years of experience here on BE I should not be the one to remind you that the language of this forum is ENGLISH.

 
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Originally Posted by Domino
pity local papers don't print good luck stories about other nationalities who have left their home country to set up in Spain and made a success of their lives - or is that all a pipe dream ??
There is a really good TV show that does just that - Destino España. They keep the archives online forever so you might be able to find one for your area!

http://www.rtve.es/television/destino-espana/programas/

I've also read about such success stories in the local papers, but not recently I must say.
 
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Originally Posted by Pocaloca
There is a really good TV show that does just that - Destino España. They keep the archives online forever so you might be able to find one for your area!

http://www.rtve.es/television/destino-espana/programas/
Yep, agree, it features people from all over the world that have settled successfully in Spain, some from Spanish speaking countries and some from the Far East, Europe etc. It probably clashes with Coronation St or Eastenders!
 
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Originally Posted by jackytoo

Here is one story of a couple who moved to Oxford. He is working in a bar and learning English. As he says, In the UK you get every help if you have children and our rent is paid.

http://www.diariosur.es/v/20120729/m...-20120729.html
Who pays his rent and where does that money come from?
 


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