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Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 10224574)
Exactly SG. It appears to be easy to jump from the non-prosperous-middle-class appearance of the people's gardens to the assumption of heinous crimes, and equally possible to assume from well-kept lawns, shiny cars, and good manners that the crimes and abuses don't happen.
non prosperous middle class appearance of their gardens ? |
Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
(Post 10224582)
I'm all good hun, glad you enjoyed your time away.... roll on next year eh?
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Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by Sam Greenfield
(Post 10224575)
I was on about abuse as well - which does get swept under the carpet all too often :( xxx
And I am sure that money does not give an abuser immunity under the law. |
Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10224589)
I am sure that some cases get swept under the carpet in rich and poor families, but the cases which end in very serious injury or death, do not.
And I am sure that money does not give an abuser immunity under the law. |
Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 10224574)
Exactly SG. It appears to be easy to jump from the non-prosperous-middle-class appearance of the people's gardens to the assumption of heinous crimes, and equally possible to assume from well-kept lawns, shiny cars, and good manners that the crimes and abuses don't happen.
Neglect as to where the children go and who with. A mother who allows her children to live in filth, quite often is not so vigilant on who they associate with. |
Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10224589)
I am sure that some cases get swept under the carpet in rich and poor families, but the cases which end in very serious injury or death, do not.
And I am sure that money does not give an abuser immunity under the law. |
Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
(Post 10224580)
Quite often the murder is the end of a line, the end of a chain of abuse that may well have been going on for some time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_...stigation_2008 |
Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10224605)
Of course you are trying to be smart, but it is a well known fact that quite often a dirty house and appearance goes with other types of neglect.
Neglect as to where the children go and who with. A mother who allows her children to live in filth, quite often is not so vigilant on who they associate with. Im also on about ALL classes here xxx |
Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10224605)
Of course you are trying to be smart, but it is a well known fact that quite often a dirty house and appearance goes with other types of neglect.
Neglect as to where the children go and who with. A mother who allows her children to live in filth, quite often is not so vigilant on who they associate with. |
Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
At the end of the day another poor child has been killed - it doesnt matter where she was from or how much money they had/or had not - shes dead - what an utter waste of another young life :( xxx
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Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by Sam Greenfield
(Post 10224650)
At the end of the day another poor child has been killed - it doesnt matter where she was from or how much money they had/or had not - shes dead - what an utter waste of another young life :( xxx
As a matter of interest whatever happened to the much cherished British belief of innocence until proof of guilt? All this speculation about abuse is a bit distasteful (I'm struggling to be polite here) given we know nothing and the post mortem isn't even finished yet. I just hope that when it comes to trial the jury will decide on evidence not on their preheld prejudices. |
Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by Rambling Rose
(Post 10224684)
I think that about sums it up.
As a matter of interest whatever happened to the much cherished British belief of innocence until proof of guilt? All this speculation about abuse is a bit distasteful (I'm struggling to be polite here) given we know nothing and the post mortem isn't even finished yet. I just hope that when it comes to trial the jury will decide on evidence not on their preheld prejudices. |
Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
The case of Tia did live up to all the stereotypes. A Mother who allows her child to live most of the time in the Grandmothers house despite knowing her lover (and the Mothers ex-lover) was a convicted druggie and more! Even to the picture of him stood at the door of that slum with a can in his hand. Now the Mother turns up weeping and wailing....Typical sort of scenario when many get a new partner the kids by a previous Father is discarded and ignored.
Of course abuse is not confined to dysfunctional families but what does it have to do with this thread...except to get into a point scoring contest with the usual culprits:thumbdown: |
Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by Rambling Rose
(Post 10224684)
I think that about sums it up.
As a matter of interest whatever happened to the much cherished British belief of innocence until proof of guilt? All this speculation about abuse is a bit distasteful (I'm struggling to be polite here) given we know nothing and the post mortem isn't even finished yet. I just hope that when it comes to trial the jury will decide on evidence not on their preheld prejudices. |
Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 10224695)
The case of Tia did live up to all the stereotypes. A Mother who allows her child to live most of the time in the Grandmothers house despite knowing her lover (and the Mothers ex-lover) was a convicted druggie and more! Even to the picture of him stood at the door of that slum with a can in his hand. Now the Mother turns up weeping and wailing....Typical sort of scenario when many get a new partner the kids by a previous Father is discarded and ignored.
Of course abuse is not confined to dysfunctional families but what does it have to do with this thread...except to get into a point scoring contest with the usual culprits:thumbdown: |
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