Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

Aside from the tragic end or poor Tia, looking at the dynamics of the family (what little we know) I agree that it is not right that any mother would go on to have a relationship with a man who has slept with her own daugter.

That tells me that boundaries of "normal" behavior are not adhered to, and it is becoming a more common senario, sort of pass the parcel in personal relationships.

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

Actually he is not a "step father" or "step grandfather" he was the boyfriend of the girls mother and is now the boyfriend of the girls grandmother, that does not make him a "step" anything. I wonder what the actual grandfather thinks of this when the newspapers report that the "grandfather" is the chief suspect.

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

Back on topic please.

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

He is not in anyway her stepfather or step grandfather. He's merely the bloke that first her mother, then the grandmother, slept with. Jeremy Kyle material.

Poor little soul. I hope she didn't suffer.

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

Scampi my opinion watching some of the news was that the neighbours were auditioning for Jeremy Kyle.

Likewise I hope it was a quick painless end.

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

I find it strange that the result of the post mortem is not yet known, and that the examination is stretched over two days. And I've never known a person to be charged with murder before the result of the post mortem if the body is readily available. And didn't the police say that the body hasn't even been formally identified?

I hope the decision to charge the boyfriend wasn't hurried along for 'political' reasons, in line with that rather strange apology.

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

You just HAVE to know, don't you?

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

The poor child what must she have gone through. Some people are pure evil. I long to be a grandmother and know I would protect my grandchild with my life.

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

'Untermenschen' is a term used for people who resort to name calling in a discussion when their limited intelligence fails them.

It's also a term used to describe the people involved in this horrible incident in New Addington. Those people genuinely love their children, just like the rest of us, but most of them collect their benefits, drink their cheap vodka, smoke their drugs and hope that somehow their children will survive unscathed.

A lot of them don't.

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

Actually, its a term used to describe the "under-humans" that the Nazis decided needed to be eradicated from this earth and while I am not a practising Jew by any stretch of the imagination I do find the message behind is pretty bloody offensive but if you want to use it to win an argument who am I to stop you big guy, hardly surprising something like that gets wheeled out on this part of the forum.

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

Just because this thread is in Siesta Time doesn't mean that you can resort to childish namecalling.

It's a serious thread and deserves some respect.

Let's get back on topic please.

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

I get the feeling the police may have bungled and jumped in to admit it rather than be pilloried later.

I am however "looking forward" to hearing about all the welfare contacts this, what appears to be, disfunctional family have had in the past. There seem to be a number of things "wrong" - perhaps it is just in the quality of the reporting, but we will see.

In the meantime, lessons will have been learnt, we will do our utmost to ensure it doesnt happen again.
And another young life will have been lost needlessly.

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

It makes you wonder when they are going to learn - i dont just mean the police here im on about all the agencies who are usually involved with children - way to many are abused or killed and all you hear is we are understaffed - well im sorry its not good enough :( xxx

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

It was mentioned on the news today, though I had heard it previously,that the childs body may have been found in the loft above a neighbouring house.

If this were the case I'd doubt that any search warrant the police may have originally been granted would include all other property throughout the street and its unlikely they would have sent the dogs up there at that time if there was open access right along the street.

It could also explain why the neighbour was taken in for questioning.

All just supposition of course at this stage, but no doubt all will be explained in the fullness of time.

In any event a very sad story all round with the child losing her life amongst those in whom she most likely had complete trust.

Re: Missing girl 'Tia'
 

no, cannot really blame the police as they have to do things so strictly within the law or the perp walks, even the slightest slip will end up with a walk.

yes, blame the "other agencies" who write reports, hold case meetings, and attend mandatory "hand wringing" classes just in case.
so many £millions are spent on Social Services but all we ever see is the high profile failures every year or so, the ones who slip the net.

but lets wait and see, perhaps this family group have had no dealings at all, completely off the radar.
:fingerscrossed: