Dick Dasterdly

Apparently the old lady had just gone out for a loaf of White and ended up going home with Toasted Brown.

Even with the lowest share of the vote in third place,amazingly its still expected that Labour would end up with most seats.
However finding anyone brave or stupid enough to serve under Brown as PM is probably highly unlikely.

jdr

How long will it take for someone to come up with similar recordings of the other pair ?

Dick Dasterdly

Lets all give a big thank you to Gordon,(not forgetting of course the old lady who popped out for a White loaf and came home with a toasted Brown),....for brightening up another dull and boring electioneering day.

But thanks to Gordon most of all, for clearly demonstrating, to the few still in any doubt, just what an arrogant,two-faced, snake in the grass you really are.
People like Brown should never be allowed anywhere near a place of public office,.... but instead be sentenced to spend the next ten years of their lives, on their hands and knees with a bar of soap and a tin of disinfectant,scrubbing out all of the public toilets in Rochdale, until such time as they have learnt the real meaning of decency,honesty,humility and respect.

bil

As are they all, my dear, as are they all.

Makingthemove

They certainly are.... Someone used to say that the very fact someone wants to be PM should debar them. All the main parties, and their focus groups, advisors etc, think we can be swayed by their soundbites and slogans. No, actually, I would like to be able to read a policy, and understand what you are actually standin for...

bil

That is truly, absolutely so.

Cape Blue

I suspect a significant percentage of the electorate have no idea or interest in their policies, they vote for tribal reasons (the same way as their parents) or because of the looks and oratory skills of the PM candidates, or because their chosen media has spoon-fed them who to vote for.

bil

I suspect you got that right.

elspeth sinclair

People who vote for tribal reasons are well aware of the of the policies of their tribe and it's historical significance and this is true of all parties. They are the true voters.Then we have the angry young men who flirt with all ideas from communism to fascism and everything in between and finally they reach a decision about what's best for them personally and b ecome MPs. Look how many times Churchill crossed the floor of the house. This was the man who sent the Black and Tans in Southern Ireland during the troubles. The Black and Tans were murderers and rapists released from British prisons to terrorise, rape , murder and pillage the Irish peasantry wearing their distinctive uniforms. People should vote from their hearts not for a short time easy option. Mud slinging is usually done by people who never vote. Learn from history.

bil

But sadly the lesson of history is.......

elspeth sinclair

Unfinished sentences are unhelpful they are not the mark of a deep thinker. Try dipping your toe in the water for a change.

Cape Blue

I don't agree, I see people voting for a party because they were indoctrinated at a young age by their parents. My mother (in her 80's) has always voted Tory, she tells me what a mess Labour has made of her (State) pension - when i point out it was Maggie that changed the link from ave earnings to inflation and that Labour are reversing it she doesn't want to hear it.

She has just spent a week in hospital and was telling how marvelous the service was - but she forgets the huge investment in the NHS that Labour has undertaken and that the Tories low-tax policy meant the NHS was on its knees at the end of their last reign.

She will always vote Tory (although she does like the nice young man from UKIP), even if she doesn't actually know any of their policies.

I would guess that the vast majority of the UK electorate vote as their parents did, without considering the relative merits of the party's policies.

bil

Hmmm. Now I would say that that comment was patronising beyond belief. Plus how the hell you could calculate the depth of thought from that is laughable.

The thinking was deep enough to assume that everyone was more than familiar with the conclusion '..that man does not learn the lesson of history.'

I guess I was trying to be slightly amusing, but hopefully others got the idea.

My apologies if I overestimated your familiarity with the phrase.

bil

Nice comment. Of course what it is is a belief system. It's belief systems that enable people to unquestioningly believe all sorts of crap, whether god, ufo or political party.

Get them indoctrinated into a belief system and you can do almost anything and they will still kiss you *rse and pay for the privilege.

bobthelocksmith

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I agree with that sentiment and disagree with Elspeth that 'mudslinging is usually done by people who never vote'. My mother in law always votes and she is seriously and embarrassingly racist and anti Labour and mud-slings all the time! The problem is how to engage people, and for all the drawbacks of the recent tv debates at least they have helped to this effect - even if many people appeared more interested in the 'personality' behind the microphone than the somewhat predictable , planned and practised spiel that was presented. It was a pity that the studio audience were not allowed to react as this would have livened up the atmosphere.