Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

I note that one or two posters here are hinting at the truth about the possibility of re opening Jags ( CE) or opening a bus/taxi service.

I salute them !


As for a private bus/taxi service I know the owners of two companies who could operate a quality service tomorrow honestly, totally licensed and totally legal. They wont.....they are not idiots!!!!


As for Jags I simply post the statement COSTA ESURY LEISURE S.L AKA Jags issued in August 2012 below and below it the order served on them back in Oct 2010 .


Fraud if they took membership fees after Oct 2010 ?

"You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment"


As a dear Spanish friend of mine still says to me ten years on

" Welcome to Spain" and " "Are the English really that stupid"

Off to have my weekly meeting with the Mayor....NOT.


Best

Loco




Jags Statement of August 2012

"We are very sorry to inform our customers we have been served notification by the Town Hall that our license has been suspended, due to persistent complaints by our neighbour. Our lawyers have submitted all the documentation requested and we hope to re-open on Monday 27th August. We would like to apologise to all our customers for the inconvenience and thank you for all your support during this difficult period.


El Alcalde-Presidente del Ilmo. Ayuntamiento de Ayamonte, en el ejercicio de sus funciones, HACE SABER: Que al no haber sido posible la notificación personal a la mercantil COSTA ESURI LEISURE SL en C/López de Ayala, 53 de Costa Esuride Ayamonte (Huelva) de la apertura de procedimiento sancionador que se sigue a la misma en este Ayuntamiento por la apertura sin licencia de un establecimiento público y el ejercicio de la actividad recreativa de bar (JAGS BISTRO BAR), por la presente se le notifica mediante publicación del presente edicto, de conformidad con el art.59.5 de la Ley 30/92, reguladora del Régimen Jurídico de las Administraciones Públicas y del Procedimiento Administrativo Común:

RESULTANDO que por la Policía Local de Ayamonte en fecha 17 de abril de 2010 en comprobación de la denuncia efectuada por un vecino de Ayamonte(Huelva) el día 15 de abril de 2010 por molestias causadas por un local abierto al público denominado JAGS BISTRO BAR, se ha puesto de manifiesto que dicho bar se encuentra abierto al público en P.PPUENTE ESURI, R34, R35 Y R36 (C/López de Ayala) de Ayamonte (Huelva) sin licencia de apertura.

RESULTANDO que dicho bar pertenece a la mercantil COSTA ESURY LEISURE SL, cuyos representantes legales son D. JAGIR SINGH SIDHU y D. LOUDON GAVIN.

RESULTANDO que de acuerdo con lo establecido en el art. 2.1 de la ley 13/1999, de 15 de diciembre, de Espectáculos Públicos y Actividades Recreativas de Andalucía, en relación con el art. 22 del Reglamento de Servicios de las Corporaciones Locales, la actividad desarrollada requiere de la previa concesión de licencia de apertura.

CONSIDERANDO que la apertura del establecimiento al público y el ejercicio de la actividad recreativa consistente en bar antes referida sin la preceptiva autorización puede suponer la comisión de una infracción grave, de acuerdo con lo establecido en el art.20.1 de la Ley 13/1999, en relación con el art.19 núms. 1 y 3 de dicho texto legal, pudiendo ser sancionada con la imposición de multa de 300,51 a 30.050,61 (art.22.1 b del citado texto legal) y con las sanciones accesorias a que hace referencia el art. 23.1 de la Ley 13/1999 para las infracciones graves.

CONSIDERANDO que el ejercicio de la actividad citada sin la previa autorización dará lugar a su inmediata suspensión, conforme a lo establecido en el número 9 del art.2 y en la letra c) del art.3.1 de la Ley 13/1999, así como en el art.17.1 c) del Decreto 165/2003, de 17 de diciembre, sin perjuicio de la imposición de las sanciones que fueran procedentes.

CONSIDERANDO que corresponde a esta Entidad Local, de acuerdo con lo establecido en el art.29.2 de la Ley 13/1999, de 15 de diciembre, y el art.39.1 y 3 del Decreto 165/2003, de 17 de diciembre, la competencia para la incoación del presente procedimiento, siendo competente este Alcalde Presidente, conforme a lo establecido en dichos preceptos, en relación con el art. 21.3 de la Ley 7/1985, de 2 de abril, Reguladora de las Bases del Régimen Local, HE RESUELTO:

PRIMERO. Incoar procedimiento sancionador contra la mercantil COSTA ESURY LEISURE SL por la apertura de un establecimiento público denominado JAGS BISTRO BARen la Cl. López de Ayala de Costa Esurien Ayamonte(Huelva) y el desarrollo de una actividad recreativa de bar, hechos descritos en el resultando primero de esta resolución, sin contar con la preceptiva licencia de apertura.

SEGUNDO. Ordenar a la mercantil COSTA ESURY LEISURE SL la inmediata suspensión de la actividad y el cierre del local,- una vez efectuada la notificación de la presente resolución. De no verificarse en cierre de forma voluntaria, el mismo será ejecutado forzosamente por la Policía Local, que procederá al precintado de la actividad para debida constancia y aseguramiento de la medida de cierre decretada. Haciéndose expresa advertencia al titular de la actividad que el incumplimiento de la medida de suspensión y prohibición del desarrollo de la actividad dictada supone la comisión de una infracción de carácter muy grave contemplada en el art.19.5 de la ley 13/1999, de 15 de diciembre, sancionable con multa de 30.050,62 a 601.012,10 , sin perjuicio de las multas coercitivas que se impondrán en los términos establecidos en el art.26 del Decreto 165/2003, de 17 de junio.

TERCERO. Los hechos que motivan la incoación, su posible calificación y las sanciones que puedan corresponder, sin perjuicio de lo que pueda resultar de la instrucción, son los que se reseñan en esta resolución.

CUARTO. Designar Instructor del procedimiento a D. José Carlos Fernández Reyes y Secretario a Dña. Alba Gómez Rodríguez, que podrán abstenerse de intervenir o ser recusado por el interesado por las causas y forma que se determinan en los Arts. 28 y 29, de la Ley 30/1992, de 26 de noviembre, de Régimen Jurídico de las Administraciones Públicas y del Procedimiento Administrativo Común.

QUINTO.- Comunicar al interesado que puede reconocer voluntariamente su responsabilidad, con los efectos previstos en el artículo 8 del Reglamento para el ejercicio de la potestad sancionadora, aprobado por el Real Decreto 1398/1993, de 4 de agosto (BOE 189, de 9 de agosto de 1993), pudiéndose resolver el procedimiento con la imposición de la sanción que proceda si fuere el caso.

SEXTO. El plazo máximo de resolución del expediente sancionador es de un año, a contar desde la fecha de iniciación del presente procedimiento, transcurrido el cual, sin que haya recaído resolución expresa, se entenderá caducado el expediente. Asimismo el procedimiento finalizará en caso de que se pague voluntariamente la sanción pecuniaria, y todo ello sin perjuicio de la posibilidad de interponer los recursos que el interesado estime convenientes.

SÉPTIMO. El interesado dispondrá de 15 días a contar desde el siguiente a la notificación de esta resolución para aportar cuantas alegaciones, documentos o informaciones estime convenientes y, en su caso, proponer pruebas concretando los medios de que intente valerse, y ello sin perjuicio dei derecho que dispone de conocer el estado de la tramitación del expediente y a acceder y obtener copias de los documentos contenidos en el mismo. Caso de no efectuar alegaciones sobre el contenido referente a la iniciación de este procedimiento, dicha iniciación podrá ser considerada propuesta de resolución. OCTAVO. Notifiquesela presente resolución al interesado. Todo lo cual le comunico para su constancia y efectos significándole que contra el presente acto de incoación del procedimiento sancionador no cabe la interposición de recurso alguno, al resultar un acto de mero trámite. No obstante, si podrá presentar recurso contencioso administrativo contra la media de suspensión y prohibición de desarrollo de la actividad y de cierre del local, ante el Juzgado de lo Contencioso Administrativo con sede en Huelva, en plazo de dos meses a contar desde el día siguiente al de notificación de esta solución. Asimismo, con carácter potestativo, podrá interponer recurso de reposición ante el Sr. Alcalde residente, en el plazo de un mes a contar desde el día siguiente a la notificacióde la presente resolución. No obstante, podrá interponer cualquier otro recurso que estime procedente.

Ayamonte, a 25 de octubre de 2010.- EL ALCALDE. Fdo.: Antonio Javier Rodríguez Castillo.



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Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

Good morning, with regards to your post I would like to point out to you that I have no intention to start a TAXI service as I said before my intention is to work together with them and not against them. As for the PRIVAT bus service for residents of Costa Esuri that is their business if they are not interested in running it. I would like to offer the residents a service that they deserve, and no negative comments will stop me trying to offer the service. The people that you mention are most probably people or companies that will let someone like me do all the work to start it up and then when it is running try to start them selves and take away the business. Those are the type of people we all like!! I do not understand why other residents try to stand in the way of the ones who maybe are not in a position to own a car or do not want to drive a car and would like to get in to Ayamonte to do their shopping etc.
IN STEAD OF CRITICIZING THE SERVICE YOU SHOULD BE SUPPORTING IT you may also be without a car one day.
The rest of you thanks for your support so far with the plans and I look forward to hearing from more of you soon.

Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

Sorry but in my last post it is mixing up the words a bit I have tried to change it but with no luck. I hope that you understand the message I am trying to get across

Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

Hi Frank

People on CE have been 'burned' and so may seem negative. Its a breath of fresh air for me that you are talking about bus services and opening up a business as well. Thank you!! :thumbsup:

However if you read this and other threads there is a wonderful business opportunity at Jags. But like any business opportunity there are some huge hurdles to overcome.... some of those hurdles are already being acted on.

The bistro needs licensing approved at the Town hall, and I hear that there is a group that have gone a long way to achieve that. It needs up front investment, including an operational lift for handicapped access to the main terrace.

Jag had a membership scheme that many signed up to, you paid 1000 up front and got 500 x 3 vouchers. Over 3 years. It was a great way to get up front investment. It wont work again unless you can prove that all the licenses are 100% in place and there is a decent business plan that you can sell. Even then - people will be suspicious and worry about early closure... and loss of money. It would take a very good plan to make me do that for example.

If you already have that up-front funding then there is a great opportunity there... or the bar above the shop which is a wonderful location... but there are hurdles there as well. You need to plan for the nuisance problem for the noise etc.

To pursue the Jags opportunity you need to contact the president of the residents association of the villas (who each own a share of the freehold) and discuss your business plans with her.

Every time Jag had an event it was packed out, even in low season, events caused people to come. CE needs more businesses opening there is a huge pent up demand for something here. Even the smallest village in Spain supports several bars, and CE has a huge population with money to spend. Certainly in high season.

I wish you good luck with your plans, I think properly done, you will be able to make money here! Thank you for your interest in CE.

Jon

Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

Hi Jon, thanks for your reply. My main concern for CE is to get the bus service up and running as soon as possible as I think that is priority for CE.
With regards to Jags I have only mentioned that I know a very capable person to run the place if there are investors and that I have a business plan from him here by me.
But like I said the bus service is the priority. What I have not mentioned is that the bus service will be a non profitable venture only for CE residents and it will operate regularly not just once or twice a day.

Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

Hi Frank. This is fantastic if you can get this done it would be great, as I say I dont know about the bus business, but if you can do that and break even, then we will certainly use it. But how much - I don't know.

The taxi into town is 10, so if 2 couples are going in and back its 5Euros each. Thats probably a good stake in the ground for pricing.

The town hall don't seem very business friendly (maybe its not them but a 'Spanish thing') - even though the mayors team are presiding over the EUC, I don't see any initiative coming from them to improve CE. Except to ask for money. I (and most people) have no confidence in the EUC board, some are suspicious about what they do even. The mayor was in the national press a few years back about his involvement in the EUC for example.

What that means is there might be problems getting things done, there may be vested interests to overcome as well. I realise this is not your plan, but the bus service that goes to Canela u-turns before CE... if it were to continue on just a few minutes, they could include us... and again Canela is dead in low season and has a bus whereas CE is more populated.

In high season the bus could be packed!

Re Jags: If your friend is really interested, he/she could make a presentation to residents. If I was here I would certainly go to that. Of course he will need to have had the meeting with the president first.

The new Golf Club management are making all the 'right noises' with proper planning they would be very successful. When Jags was around, he was the only 'proper bar'/resto in CE. If they do it right they can be a real social centre for CE. Even then I think there is room for more...

Am I right to be getting a tad excited about some of the initiatives of this year! Hope so!

Thanks
Jon

Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

Hi Jon, thanks again for your reply. I have already been to the mayors office and the first interest was positive. I have a meeting with the mayor himself in two weeks time will keep you posted.
Frank

Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

Great !! :fingerscrossed:

This is wonderful news, good luck!

We are going to wander around town today, in 30 mins, if there was a bus we would take it to save the parking hassle.. and allow me to maybe have a coupla cold ones at one of the great plaza's in Ayamonte!! On this wonderful day!

Last night Ayamonte was buzzing with people coming out to enjoy the sun, was in shorts till after midnight.

:fingerscrossed:

Look forward to the update
Jon

Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

Hi all of you out there. Well what I thought would happen has happened. The taxi drivers of Ayamonte have found out about my plans and are up in arms. I received my first threatening phone call this morning and they are planning to do all they can to stop me running any services for you. Either the bus service or the transfer service. So you see if anybody tries to do something here on Costa Esuri it is almost impossible. I have always said I want to do this legally and have always said that I am not a Taxi company and do not want to be one. All I am doing is trying to offer you services that you have right to and at affordable prices. I still so far have my appointments at the town hall on the 17th of June with the Mayor and the responsible person for transport and tourism. I will see if this goes through or if the taxi drivers have enough power to stop the Mayor talking to me anymore. The project needs your support now more than ever if we want this to go through. If you want to support the project please mail to me private and I will take your letters of support with me.
I am very sorry that it has had to turn out to be a war with the taxi drivers of Ayamonte as that is what I have tried to avoid.
I look forward to hearing from you, [email protected]

Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

Hi Frank, this is indeed a difficult situation. I, along with everyone else, would find a bus service a great advantage but one thing you have to keep in mind is that you are trying to do this in a country where a large portion of the locals have no job. In England everyone moans about non Brits taking jobs, well its the same here and you must agree they have a valid point. Its a shame for everyone but until things get better I can't see your service taking off. I will however wish you luck and hope that you don't get put off. Regards Bryony

Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

many thanks for your reply. On one hand I agree with you but then why hasent the service come yet from someone local. The next thing is that I would be creating jobs for a couple of drivers to drive the bus so from two sides I am doing something good. Creating the long awaited bus service and jobs so what am I doing wrong?

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Regarding this subject I would like to say something else. You as residents of Costa Esuri Pay rates and have a right to a bus service. Surely you are not going to let 21 taxi drivers take away the rights of hundreds of you here on CE. If this is the case then there should be no bus services anywhere and every body should go by taxi only. What would we do in England if taxi drivers had that amount of power.

Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

But you are not in England and local rules and sensibilities apply.
We have a tourist train that travels the area, it was originally promoted as a multi drop, pick up service.
The taxi drivers, locals to a man complained and it is now just a sight seeing service .
I notice that the site mentioned offered transfers to and from Faro, I assume that it has all the necessary permits etc required to operate on that side of the border as well. The Portuguese feel just as strongly about these matters as do the Spanish.

Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

If you do not want the bus service then just say so! I could just as easy stop fighting for you if that is what you prefer. But them why should anybody bother doing anything for CE if it is not wanted anyway. But dont complain if it becomes a ghost town.

Re: Jags - 'Business case?'
 

I agree Frank, it is odd and the reason the regular service bus doesn't come this far is even odder. I'm sure there are many Spanish CE residents who would like a bus service so maybe you should have a chat with them and find out how they feel as they far out number ExPats. Bryony