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Anyone is welcomed to any that I have paid, but I expect it has already been spent long ago, hopefully they will borrow some more.

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;)Why? Is there somewhere else to buy them from?
Happy Easter, don't worry about it.

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I get that coming up. That in order to have full screen I will have to pay, but I just use the arrow to go back and then go back again if you see what I mean:rofl: usually works - for now that is:fingerscrossed:

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Europa Network have just added 12 more TV channels to their list, and are now offering a 14 day catch-up service. So that's FilmOn, Europa and TV Catchup who aren't bothered about the ECJ ruling. :)

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I don't mean to hijack this thread. But reading this contentious debate, it occurs to me that another question lies at the heart of it.

Whatever happened to the EU?
Remember that old single market idea?

The broadcast and communications industry has not made a single step towards a single market. TV, Internet, phone... it's all just goods and services. So why no single market? Because greedy national governments need to screw the service providers for license fees all of which gets passed on to us as higher costs (ever wondered why these things are so cheap in the US). These licensing deals based on national boundaries are a disgrace in 'single market'. Imagine driving from California to Nevada and all of a sudden you need a new TV, Internet and phone setup and your mobile costs just double.

Europe is never going to compete like this. If the IPTV license is good in the UK then it should be good anywhere in Europe, and sooner or later that is how it will be because technology will always thwart the legal restrictionists.

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please - what is an "IPTV license"
:confused:

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First, the EU is NOT a single market in the sense we'd all been led to believe, it is part of a highly regulated market, that's true.

But there are many reasons UK broadcasters do not, and cannot cross borders.

The first and most obvious has to do with language. Truth is, there isn't a big market for English language broadcasts in most of Europe. So even if it were otherwise an open market, there wouldn't be a lot of interest in marketing UK TV (or any other languages) across Europe.

But UK TV does go to great lengths to limit its broadcasts exclusively to the UK, more so than say, German broadcasters, for example, but I suspect that's mainly because literally nobody other than Germans want to watch German TV anyway, and even though they also pay ridiculous obligatory TV licence fees, German public broadcasting content is pretty weak and lifeless (and rather propaganda-like, or perhaps more accurately, German public TV clearly avoids any kind of political controversy or anti-government sentiment). Most Germans therefore prefer to pay for German Sky TV (if they can afford it). I am fluent in German, and I'd take BBC over any German TV anytime.

The next and perhaps the biggest reason UK TV is hard to get anywhere else is rights to the content that's broadcast. The owners of movies, sports and other content of high public interest often impose clear restrictions on where that content can be marketed. If ITV, for example, actively marketed its programming to the rest of Europe, it could be in violation of many of the geographical restrictions they've contracted with studios or sports owners, and other content they broadcast. They probably would never be able to get the broadcast rights for a lot of stuff and their programming would suffer.

So it's not really an EU thing. But the UK really isn't "EU" like the rest of the EU is anyway. >Technically, yes, but in practice, the UK isn't really "EU", except of course having to live with all those nasty little regulations that the EU imposes on it.

MOBILE NETWORKS
Mobile phones, well that's a completely different issue - before the EU became a somewhat "common" market, the mobile phone providers all made a lot of money from an increasingly mobile EU population. Rather than competing to offer reasonably-priced EU-wide packages (like most all do in the US now -flat rate throughout US and Canada), they chose to profit heavily from roaming charges. I remember 1000 pound mobile bills - all from roaming charges in Europe.

The EU finally stepped in and regulated what could be charged - which is a good thing, but the result is due to all the regulations imposed on the telecommunications industry, there will likely never be a single plan that covers Europe inexpensively, or single-market competition to facilitate it.

That's why We pay a fortune for mobiles and internet, whilst the UK and Germany and most of Europe pay a fraction and get better service. It's still a fragmented and highly regulated market favouring the former state monopolies.

I still think the way the caller pays extra charges for calls to mobiles is ridiculous and unfair - why should the caller pay for it (and how much is it?)? In much of the rest of the world, a call is a call - and a call to a mobile is no different than a call to a land line. I reckon it's just another regulation getting in the way of fair competition.

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Not strictly true. Holland, for example, has all foreign made tv broadcasts in english..of course they need subtitling.
Plenty of channels in Europe have multi audio so you can switch between original, dubbed versions, different commentating, etc.
It could be possible with effort...look at how popular prgrams like Top Gear are all over Europe.

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and absolutely hilarious in poorly dubbed Spanish, especially as there is no effort to lip synch the audio to the video
:rofl:

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Holland has always had subtitles and no overdubs, in fact, many Dutch people speak English with an American accent - because they watch a lot of American TV programs. But that's not because they want English programming - there are plenty of Dutch programmes, too.

In Germany, broadcasts must be in German language - by law (although there's no law against a second language as an option). However, precious few programs are broadcast with original audio as an option. And in German, top gear loses all humour in translation.

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back 30 years and I was on a navy training course with a guy from the Dutch Navy - he had to have English to our GCE A level before they would employ him. By the time he had finished he was probably at Interpreter Level. However, at that time he said nothing to indicate his language (excellent) language skills came from American TV.
The Dutch speaking in English appears to be a sing-song, laid back, English - but definitely not unpleasant as some GDY efforts at our language are.
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I thought I'd add an option that I've just setup. I recently bought a Samsung Smart TV so I can access the web from the TV. With a little help from this site (http://www.eyeondemand.com/category/how-to/) I was able to reset the country code of the TV to the UK. I now have the various "players" (BBC,ITV, 4) loaded on the tv. I then subscribed to a smart DNS service from overplay.net ($4.99 a month - there are others) and entered the IP address they gave me into the TV. I now get all the TV I want just using my tv remote - good quality too! Your results may vary depending on your broadband.
BTW, if any of the self-righteous nannies on this board feel the need to comment, please don't bother...don't care, don't want to hear it.

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Good for you.. thanks for the information..:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

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:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

John :):);)