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Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 10705947)
saxy - your lack of knowledge doesn't help.
would I be too technical if I said that you can't get the same amount of water down a 2.5mm copper pipe compared with a 25mm copper pipe ?? another way is - if you play a 45rpm disc at 331/3 then it doesn't give the same output. so if a film on the internet needs the eqvt of 45rpm to maintain constant flow of the film then putting it thru a 331/3 pipe it will run slower. but you with all your technical knowledge of having a box and a couple of leads and a pc that connects to the wibbly wobbly webby internet thingy know all about that. Same as you know that if there is only a 331/3 pipe and everyone on that pipe was trying to pull at 45 the guy(s) on the end of the line will get slower and slower. have to laugh, that problem doesn't happen with satellite - unless you think otherwise :rofl: Yet again, you failed to read a post correctly, which said that different companies have different "MINIMUM" speed requirements to view their products. That is the information customers need, so they don't waste their (or the companies) time. In case you didn't know... if the speed is faster than the minimum required, it will be OK :) I have to laugh at your inconsistency, READ YOUR POST #187 about WIND, LNBs, and CABLES. I don't have any of those problems with internet TV. EMR is trying to compare companies who provide VPNs (e.g. EXPAT TV), with re-broadcasting companies like EX-PAT TV. It don't work like that :eek: |
Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
Originally Posted by Saxy
(Post 10706017)
Please pay attention Domino.
Yet again, you failed to read a post correctly, which said that different companies have different "MINIMUM" speed requirements to view their products. That is the information customers need, so they don't waste their (or the companies) time. In case you didn't know... if the speed is faster than the minimum required, it will be OK :) I have to laugh at your inconsistency, READ YOUR POST #187 about WIND, LNBs, and CABLES. I don't have any of those problems with internet TV. EMR is trying to compare companies who provide VPNs (e.g. EXPAT TV), with re-broadcasting companies like EX-PAT TV. It don't work like that :eek: showing your expertise at its best all internet connections are offered by the provider as a MAXIMUM, most people only find out they will never ever get that figure as they are so far from the last repeater. so never tell someone you have a 10mb unless that is incontrovertably proven. you may well be at the end of the pipe or subject to multi-modal interference in the fibre - remember you have no control over the cable being used except in your own home, so there will be UTP, fibre, solid or stranded etc etc. But I don't think you will have much control over your home's cable either. :rofl: the MINIMUM requirement by a provider of hooky products will depend on the technology of the system used and the interfaces used. but that doesn't mean it will be perfect, they will have a preferred or optimal bandwidth to ensure no degredation. And remember that nothing stays the same, the signal strength will vary from second to second and through out the day as it isn't a constant, especially when using long wires where it will drop dependent on the others pulling out before you. It is the same as with electricity where the useage increases as people switch on in the morning, switch off at night, need more power when it gets cold. YOU really must stay awake, I hate having to repeat myself and having to explain things for those who are lagging behind, worrying about the number of free month's they will be getting :p. ` |
Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 10706044)
why doesn't it work like that ??
showing your expertise at its best all internet connections are offered by the provider as a MAXIMUM, most people only find out they will never ever get that figure as they are so far from the last repeater. so never tell someone you have a 10mb unless that is incontrovertably proven. you may well be at the end of the pipe or subject to multi-modal interference in the fibre - remember you have no control over the cable being used except in your own home, so there will be UTP, fibre, solid or stranded etc etc. But I don't think you will have much control over your home's cable either. :rofl: the MINIMUM requirement by a provider of hooky products will depend on the technology of the system used and the interfaces used. but that doesn't mean it will be perfect, they will have a preferred or optimal bandwidth to ensure no degredation. And remember that nothing stays the same, the signal strength will vary from second to second and through out the day as it isn't a constant, especially when using long wires where it will drop dependent on the others pulling out before you. It is the same as with electricity where the useage increases as people switch on in the morning, switch off at night, need more power when it gets cold. YOU really must stay awake, I hate having to repeat myself and having to explain things for those who are lagging behind, worrying about the number of free month's they will be getting :p. ` It don't work like that, 'cos EXPAT TV supply VPNs, which have nothing to do with your internet speed. All they do is provide you with an address other than your true location.... got that? Companies like EX-PAT TV, re-broadcast programs (the new one NTV looks especially good, with SKY progs, if that's what you want), and advise potential customers of the minimum speed that their programs will screen effectively... (God, this is worse than teaching school children ;)) According to those in the know, the quoted internet speed that you pay for will normally be reduced by about 20% when it reaches you. However there are companies like "Astril VPNl" whose service includes a speed booster. Don't ask me how it works, but I pay for 8Mb with Europa, and actually get about 6Mb. Using the "Astrill" boost, and depending on the server, this can increase to as much as 7.4Mb (that's the best I've had!) |
Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
The max we can get is 0.75 on a good day so none of these so generous public servce providers will get our business, I can thnk of better things to waste our money on.
Penny to euro that there are still installers taking orders for dishes and boxes in the areas that will probably lose UK tv and guess what they will also have a handy internet service available for the same customers when they lose their Corrie etc. The market at the moment has the same controls and integrity you would associate with intinerant tarmac drive layers. |
Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
Originally Posted by Saxy
(Post 10706109)
There you go again, what are you on?
It don't work like that, 'cos EXPAT TV supply VPNs, which have nothing to do with your internet speed. All they do is provide you with an address other than your true location.... got that? Companies like EX-PAT TV, re-broadcast programs (the new one NTV looks especially good, with SKY progs, if that's what you want), and advise potential customers of the minimum speed that their programs will screen effectively... (God, this is worse than teaching school children ;)) According to those in the know, the quoted internet speed that you pay for will normally be reduced by about 20% when it reaches you. However there are companies like "Astril VPNl" whose service includes a speed booster. Don't ask me how it works, but I pay for 8Mb with Europa, and actually get about 6Mb. Using the "Astrill" boost, and depending on the server, this can increase to as much as 7.4Mb (that's the best I've had!) It is the builders eqvt of a wall for you to hide behind, taking what you want by bamboozling other pieces of electronics to think you aren't who you say you are. It is an extra item in the chain to go wrong. Even if the signal is 1000mb at the vpn you have all the other pieces of pipe along the way to reduce it to the dribble you get at your pc. and a booster is the same as a water pump increasing pressure down the same pipe. Except that if the telecom company adds another 100 houses upline to your pipe, as sure as eggs is eggs you will get a pressure drop. I think the problem is you think you are clever because you can plug a few boxes into a wall socket and get corrie. And that other people don't have your specialist knowledge. wonder what happens if you turn on the light and it don't work :rofl: |
Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 10706330)
The max we can get is 0.75 on a good day so none of these so generous public servce providers will get our business, I can thnk of better things to waste our money on.
Penny to euro that there are still installers taking orders for dishes and boxes in the areas that will probably lose UK tv and guess what they will also have a handy internet service available for the same customers when they lose their Corrie etc. The market at the moment has the same controls and integrity you would associate with intinerant tarmac drive layers. just makes me wonder at the type of person who has to hide behind a wall to watch a television programme. :( |
Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 10706350)
oh dear, you think I don't understand that a VPN is the equivalent of a valve in a water pipe.
It is the builders eqvt of a wall for you to hide behind, taking what you want by bamboozling other pieces of electronics to think you aren't who you say you are. It is an extra item in the chain to go wrong. Even if the signal is 1000mb at the vpn you have all the other pieces of pipe along the way to reduce it to the dribble you get at your pc. and a booster is the same as a water pump increasing pressure down the same pipe. Except that if the telecom company adds another 100 houses upline to your pipe, as sure as eggs is eggs you will get a pressure drop. I think the problem is you think you are clever because you can plug a few boxes into a wall socket and get corrie. And that other people don't have your specialist knowledge. wonder what happens if you turn on the light and it don't work :rofl: It just goes to show how little knowledge you have about the subject, that you have to talk about water pipes and not use technical jargon. The speed boost is at my computer only, not to others!! I don't know how the "Astrill" program does it, but it works. Switch off the boost, check the speed, and it's back to 6Mb. Again, you didn't read a post properly. I only use the computer, no other boxes.... Do Buck Up! You keep leaving yourself "Wide Open". Your electric light analogy has backfired. I served a 5 year apprenticeship as an "Electrical Fitter" in Portsmouth Naval Base :p |
Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
Originally Posted by Saxy
(Post 10706404)
That's why you check with your internet supplier, to see what the max. speed you can get before you register with a company for their programs.
It just goes to show how little knowledge you have about the subject, that you have to talk about water pipes and not use technical jargon. The speed boost is at my computer only, not to others!! I don't know how the "Astrill" program does it, but it works. Switch off the boost, check the speed, and it's back to 6Mb. Again, you didn't read a post properly. I only use the computer, no other boxes.... Do Buck Up! You keep leaving yourself "Wide Open". Your electric light analogy has backfired. I served a 5 year apprenticeship as an "Electrical Fitter" in Portsmouth Naval Base :p 9 month refit didn't see them for 7 months and then they flooded us with bodies, so many they got in each others way. :rofl: |
Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
To the op no one here has ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN as yet.. They are busy talking about sky tv..
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Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
No One has mentoned SKY TV we are discussing the " dodgy " suppliers of TV via the internet, the false promises, misleading information and no mention by most of the inevitable loss of UK TV via the internet through unauthorised re broadcasters.
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Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 10707053)
No One has mentoned SKY TV we are discussing the " dodgy " suppliers of TV via the internet, the false promises, misleading information and no mention by most of the inevitable loss of UK TV via the internet through unauthorised re broadcasters.
To supply the expat demand it may be necessary to strike deals with the telecoms regulators in countries such as Spain for example. I would imagine that the telecoms industry in Spain would welcome some finance from the expat community rather than the nothing they presently receive. |
Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
although it must be said that SKY should be included in the discussion as those providing IPTV streams are purloining their products, products they have spent loadsa money on to put up there for their customers, products such as mega-bucks films that have been carefully released in different parts of the world to coincide with formal launches, publicity etc etc. Without proper payment for their labours they might as well shut up shop before the debt collectors move in.
and also, as previously stated, News Corp who own Sky also own Fox who have more than one action against Alki David's organisation. the biggest problem is that the laws and regulations were written originally in the late 1940's and early 1950's to regulate a post war world where RF communications were taking over from letters and pigeons. The tinkering that has occurred along the way has really done nothing and because "no man is an island" then a country cannot make changes or tweaks on the hoof without consulting the rest of the world. As one change is made by the originators then the hackers and purloiners are finding ways around it. Or people are just shipping boxes from one country to another. |
Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
Sky is aready legal in the EC.. so why not Spain..
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Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 10707086)
However that does not mean that internet TV cannot be broadcast by legitimate companies, ones that pay Royalties.
To supply the expat demand it may be necessary to strike deals with the telecoms regulators in countries such as Spain for example. I would imagine that the telecoms industry in Spain would welcome some finance from the expat community rather than the nothing they presently receive. I have no arguement with anyone who pays for the product, receiving permission to sell it on for a profit, paying royalties and repeat fees etc. That is a proper way to do business. Those running around with glee because they have been able to "beat the system" only inflame the problem. But (isn't there always), is there the desire by for example the EU nations to build an agreement when within a few weeks someone will be running round with glee saying he has done it again.? :( |
Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
Originally Posted by tommy.irene
(Post 10707095)
Sky is aready legal in the EC.. so why not Spain..
only used at your home in either the UK (including the Isle of Man and Channel Islands) or Republic of Ireland I really did think that one had been put to bed megabytes ago. :blink: |
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