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BAT7311 Mar 27th 2013 1:25 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10626654)
as the licence is issued based on post code and property unless someone is using a UK address I don't see how TV licencing can issue a licence.
and considering how much people complain about how much they have to pay for the rubbish that is being shown I cannot see them wanting to pay for it.

all part of that streak running through the internet - its free, its on the internet, don't see why I should pay.
:frown:

I pay a UK tv licence at my house in the UK . i dont live there
and have not for 12 years .... do i not need one because i am a resident in another country ???

amideislas Mar 27th 2013 1:30 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 

Originally Posted by BAT7311 (Post 10626636)

germany has brought in a LAW that EVERYONE inside germany must pay the TV LICENCE AND ANYONE IN RECEIPT OF STATE BENEFITS ie german OAPS in SPAIN ..result 60 channels free to air with a 28e box ..

Everyone always had to pay in Germany (unless of course, you were willing to go through the extreme bureaucratic nightmare of proving every 3 months that you don't have a TV, which many people did, even those with TVs). And of course they invested heavily in those GEZtapo vans and detecting equipment to find those evil "tax evaders". They also hired private firms to send people out to push their way into people's homes to find out if they had a TV. Naturally, a lot of scams developed, people showing up at the door pretending to be GEZtapo and demanding payment. It happened to us once, but I refused to pay.

The main change in Germany (actually, for the better, but still legal extortion IMHO) is that every household is now required to pay TV licence whether you have a TV or not. It's is quite expensive, and is also extended to a licence for use of internet.

As a former German resident, I can confidently tell you that publicly-funded TV in Germany is about as interesting as a box of rocks, and is an obvious mechanism for government propaganda. I mean, it's blatantly obvious propaganda (for example, if CMan lived in Germany, he'd be delighted to discover how perfect everything is in Germany, and how terrible the rest of the world is). Anyway, all hopelessly boring, a relatively small number of people actually watch it, yet the execs at these broadcasters make rather extraordinary fortunes.

Although I am a firm believer that all mandatory TV licensing is no more than another way to unnecessarily extort an additional 8-10 bil in revenue from the public, after being forced to pay expensive German TV licence for channels nobody ever watches, my view is that if I had to pay for BBC, I'd happily do it - if I had to.

Domino Mar 27th 2013 1:32 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 

Originally Posted by BAT7311 (Post 10626636)
not according to the woman at the BBC who gets paid 135,000 pounds a year
´´The overspill of the BBC’s services will be reduced so viewers outside the UK will find it even harder to receive them. I know that this causes unhappiness to some of you living outside the UK. However, it is entirely appropriate because the BBC domestic services are for people living in the UK only.´´
Alix Pryde Director, BBC Distribution

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/abouttheb...onders-in-2013

germany has brought in a LAW that EVERYONE inside germany must pay the TV LICENCE AND ANYONE IN RECEIPT OF STATE BENEFITS ie german OAPS in SPAIN ..result 60 channels free to air with a 28e box ..

A) the BBC statement refers to the existing sat transmissions that are provided to ensure the maximum coverage of the UK.
They know all about the Iberian lobe - and that may or may not have been put in at their insistance. But it has become a millstone they no longer need.

Exactly what they are going to do later this year, next year, the year after is another matter and they will not be advertising it within a fine detail business model.

B) Germany - As of 1 January 2013, the licence fee in Germany is now a blanket contribution of € 17.98 per month (€ 215.76 per annum) for all households and is payable regardless of equiment or television/radio usage.
The fee is billed by the month, but typically paid quarterly (yearly advanced payments are possible). People on unemployement benefits are exempt from the licence fee and those with certain disabilities can apply to pay a reduced contribution of € 5.99.
Prior to 2013, only households and businesses with at least one television were required to pay. Households with no televisions but with a radio or an internet-capable device were subject to a reduced radio-only fee.

Different country different rules, even within the EU.
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EMR Mar 27th 2013 1:37 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 
If you have a UK address with a working TV in it you need a license.
When the detector van comes round you have to prove that your TV is dead.

Domino Mar 27th 2013 1:58 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10626696)
If you have a UK address with a working TV in it you need a license.
When the detector van comes round you have to prove that your TV is dead.

yes, but they use hand held devices nowadays
:sneaky:

BAT7311 Mar 27th 2013 3:50 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10626696)
If you have a UK address with a working TV in it you need a license.
When the detector van comes round you have to prove that your TV is dead.

i think detector vans went out with blue police boxes on street corners ...;)

BAT7311 Mar 27th 2013 3:51 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10626680)
A) the BBC statement refers to the existing sat transmissions that are provided to ensure the maximum coverage of the UK.
They know all about the Iberian lobe - and that may or may not have been put in at their insistance. But it has become a millstone they no longer need.

Exactly what they are going to do later this year, next year, the year after is another matter and they will not be advertising it within a fine detail business model.

B) Germany - As of 1 January 2013, the licence fee in Germany is now a blanket contribution of € 17.98 per month (€ 215.76 per annum) for all households and is payable regardless of equiment or television/radio usage.
The fee is billed by the month, but typically paid quarterly (yearly advanced payments are possible). People on unemployement benefits are exempt from the licence fee and those with certain disabilities can apply to pay a reduced contribution of € 5.99.
Prior to 2013, only households and businesses with at least one television were required to pay. Households with no televisions but with a radio or an internet-capable device were subject to a reduced radio-only fee.

Different country different rules, even within the EU.
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yes but my point is that those GERMANS in SPAIN now have to PAY because they have a STATE INCOME ...a good system !!

BAT7311 Mar 27th 2013 4:02 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 
A) the BBC statement refers to the existing sat transmissions that are provided to ensure the maximum coverage of the UK.
They know all about the Iberian lobe - and that may or may not have been put in at their insistance. But it has become a millstone they no longer need.

NO - READ WHAT SHE SAYS the total reverse of what you wrote

" So I thought you would appreciate it if I set the record straight. The quick answer is that, as a result of SES’s fleet replacement programme, BBC services will move in the second half of 2013.

Regular readers will recall that in February 2012, SES retired Astra 2D and BBC services moved to a new temporary home on Astra 1N. Astra 1N is due to take up its permanent position in 2013 (19°East), so the BBC’s services will move to their new permanent home on Astra 2E (28.2°East) when that becomes operational. SES expects Astra 2E to launch in Q2 2013, so we currently expect to transition BBC services to it during summer 2013.

I hope that clarifies the timings of moves and also that the moves relate to the SES fleet replacement programme, rather than any BBC strategy to change its footprint. ""

tommy.irene Mar 27th 2013 4:09 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 

Originally Posted by BAT7311 (Post 10626668)
I pay a UK tv licence at my house in the UK . i dont live there
and have not for 12 years .... do i not need one because i am a resident in another country ???

Whats the joke ..why do you pay for a TV Licence..

BAT7311 Mar 27th 2013 4:27 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 

Originally Posted by tommy.irene (Post 10627024)
Whats the joke ..why do you pay for a TV Licence..

because my tennents will not bother to get one so i cover myself

tommy.irene Mar 27th 2013 5:45 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 

Originally Posted by BAT7311 (Post 10627050)
because my tennents will not bother to get one so i cover myself

Well i hope you put it on the rent..

Domino Mar 27th 2013 6:09 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 

Originally Posted by BAT7311 (Post 10627021)
A) the BBC statement refers to the existing sat transmissions that are provided to ensure the maximum coverage of the UK.
They know all about the Iberian lobe - and that may or may not have been put in at their insistance. But it has become a millstone they no longer need.

NO - READ WHAT SHE SAYS the total reverse of what you wrote

" So I thought you would appreciate it if I set the record straight. The quick answer is that, as a result of SES’s fleet replacement programme, BBC services will move in the second half of 2013.

Regular readers will recall that in February 2012, SES retired Astra 2D and BBC services moved to a new temporary home on Astra 1N. Astra 1N is due to take up its permanent position in 2013 (19°East), so the BBC’s services will move to their new permanent home on Astra 2E (28.2°East) when that becomes operational. SES expects Astra 2E to launch in Q2 2013, so we currently expect to transition BBC services to it during summer 2013.

I hope that clarifies the timings of moves and also that the moves relate to the SES fleet replacement programme, rather than any BBC strategy to change its footprint. ""

you need a lesson on reading between the lines
blame someone else is easy and makes BBC look clean on this

they are the client and SES will do what their client asks them to do.
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Domino Mar 27th 2013 6:10 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 

Originally Posted by BAT7311 (Post 10627050)
because my tennents will not bother to get one so i cover myself

although landlords can be prosecuted for non-payment of rates they cannot be prosecuted for non-payment of TV licence

EMR Mar 27th 2013 6:20 am

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 
The BBC/ITV etc were under fire from its overseas customers for letting its progs be seen FOC in the very same countries that they were selling their expensive productions to.
Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese networks pay a lot of money for series like downton, Dr WHo etc and would obviously be unhappy that viewers in their countries can watch them for nothing. What are a viewing choices of a few 100,000 UK expats compared to millions of potential subscribers.

Domino Mar 27th 2013 7:12 pm

Re: ILLEGAL BRITISH IPTV STREAMS SHUT DOWN
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10627317)
The BBC/ITV etc were under fire from its overseas customers for letting its progs be seen FOC in the very same countries that they were selling their expensive productions to.
Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese networks pay a lot of money for series like downton, Dr WHo etc and would obviously be unhappy that viewers in their countries can watch them for nothing. What are a viewing choices of a few 100,000 UK expats compared to millions of potential subscribers.

that is part of the arguement from my viewpoint on this matter.
Additionally, if a rebroadcaster makes available a new film then it will be downloaded and black market distributed "for friends and family" at large losses to the originator.

Believe me, I am not trying to justify corporate actions, but if you had paid out $120million to make a new film you want to have control of its release and to maximise the profit - to make the next one. If you release a new film on DVD you want to maximise that release to the best financially not find everyone has downloaded it already.

But its OK, cos I paid me TV licence all those years, and the Mrs misses her Corrie, and its on the internet so its part of me Human Rights.


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