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How long since you were in a foreign hotel C/man? Many don't usually have kettles, just filter coffee machines.

If you don't try new World wines you don't know what you are missing. When they are good they are very good:D Some labels are actually owned by Spaniards. Some good Argentinan reds. Chateau des charmes in Canada. Like the Australian reds too and New Zealand whites...the world has moved on!

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Can't really see the point of trying US or southern hemisphere wine, when you're in Spain. So many different wines at different qualities from different parts of the country. Same in France and Italy too.

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I'm gonna bet you don't only drink English wines while at home....

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That's why generally you have a good choice of different country's wines in the nation's supermarkets....having said that it's still hard to choose a decent wine even from the likes of Waitrose or Sainsburys - we normally buy a case from an online specialist...
But I really can't see the point in countries like Spain, Italy, France, of importing wine from Chile, the Us or Oz, when they have so much good wine available anyway. Having said that Brit supermarkets have imported inferior apples for years now, so perhaps there is no hope...

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Agree if you are only there for a few days but if you live there for years it's great to try something different, as with most things in life:lol: Alcampo used to stock a few French wines but they were the cheapest plonk and they were selling at €8 the same ones were £3.50 in the UK.

Do you never have the odd San Miguel or Corona in the UK?

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Well, that's to be expected. I could have written that for you, almost word for word - long before you posted it.

It doesn't take a psychoanalyst to realise that "it's not worth having" saves you the embarrassment of being proven wrong should you claim "it's just not true". You learned how well that works when you were in a sandbox playing plastic shovels, buckets and rubber duckies and your little mate told you the rubber duckie was "his" and "you can't have it".

Besides, everything you say is demonstrably a subjective (and convenient) opinion, rather than contradicting anything I said, which is more of an indication of jealousy than righteousness.

Welcome to reality, CMan. Not everything is as you'd like it to be. I know it hurts, but after you open your eyes a bit, they'll adjust.

Anyway, there's a little tapas fest in town tonight. We're off with a couple of our neighbours. Adios.

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Thinking about it I can't recall seeing any Spanish wine in Italy. perhaps for all those club med countries boasting how they have embraced everything Europe doesn't extend to trying other countries produce, unlike the UK who sells beer from about 50 countries!

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There is so much variety in Spanish wines - from the southern sherries, to the Basque Tsacolis, from Rueda to Albarino, from Ribera de Duero to Priorat, Cavas to Moscatels.... a world of variety in that lot!
As to San Miguel - well you're trying to say that Brits make good lager, generally they don't. Beer is a different matter. And besides Mahou, Cruzcampo or Estrella Damm are superior lagers to San Miguel imo.

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I know bars in Madrid that sell beers from umpteen countries.
And yes, can't see why Italy would provide Spanish wine when they have plenty of good stuff of their own. Doesn't make sense :confused:

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I really can't see why people in one country should try products from another.

No reason to believe trains from a foriegn country are any better than the home produced ones ;)

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Cheese is another one. Plenty of good cheese here in the UK - just finishing off a nice organic cheddar recently on offer in Sainsburys...
But in Spain better to stick to the local varieties, whether a good Manchego or a delicious rich Cabrales (if you suffer from Stilton withdrawal)...

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Absolutely, this is the whole point that British "expats" in Spain just do not get

There is a world of variety in Spain. Spaniards do not need to look to India or China or the New World (or France) for something different, they already have a rich culture inside of Spain.

You would have to be an idiot to be in Spain and order a Californian wine. Why dont you order Italian olive oil at the same time? :rofl: Now I do know a few posh Spaniards who swear by expensive French champagne instead of Cava, but to be fair there are so many variables and qualities of wine and cava that even then it is hard to justify. I also have a Catalan friend who knows all the best Cava wineries to go to, and he swears that a 50 euro bottle of Cava can rival any champagne that France can muster up

Beer is different, Spain has a very limited variety, so yes, bring in the better beers from Europe! But nobody is going to be bringing in Fosters and Carlin from the UK (except for holiday makers/expats) because it is worse than what is already here

I've said this before but I will say it again. British people are "nouveau riche" regarding food. They have limited knowledge and tradition so what they know is influenced by who has marketed the most to them i.e. communications from the UK supermarkets and celebrity chefs. Now the positive side is this has given British people a sense of confidence around food, the negative side is that most are incredibly ignorant but think they know everything just because they go for an Indian once a week and can cook their own Thai fishcakes (usually from frozen) :rofl:

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I think you are the ignorant one and must have been mixing with low life Brits too long. :amen:

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I'm sure nobody knows as much as you C'man,........though wait a minute I thought you were British ? :confused:

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Cman is in a different league from most of us.

Lower.