....and I could paste even more links from equally eminent scientists to disprove it. So what

Btw I know you Guardian quoters will be interested...just found out they have loads of workers on zero hours contracts

TIO not busy then

Oh yes, and the Maldives and the Comoros too. I read in a Sunday Times article today about the UK floods that not only are rising sea levels and storm surges a factor, but for some reason they didn't go into, Southern England is tilting downwards. Does anyone here know why that's happening?

Too many immigrants standing on it?



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I hadn't read that, I will have to check it out. Is there a tectonic plate edge under there somewhere?

We can all find links from very knowledgeable scientists for which ever side of the argument we want. Thats the point. Its not been proven. Those who believe and those who dont. Its almost like religion, its conjecture and not been proven conclusively, if it had, then they'd be none of these discussions!!! How many of us dispute whether the world is flat??? None of us, cos its "known" and a fact!!!!

So until man made climate change has been irrevocably proven, it will remain an hypothesis. Any good scientist would be prepared to have an open mind. Sadly alot of them (mainly due to where their pay cheque comes from and because of peer reviews), rather than investigate the possibilities, simply keep trying and trying to prove that they are right and it has to be said, they're failing. Some very eminent scientists (those who advised Al Gore for example) in this field predicted that the arctic summer ice would have melted completely by 2015. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVttichSzFk (sorry, I threw in a link lol) - So IMO, until they can actually get something right, then I personally have to assume that they're wrong and from I can see, the only thing that will prove it will be when there are some real signs, not just their "so far incorrect" predictions!

Jo xxx

You forgot the Polar Bears

I just had a look for some info about it and found this. Sadly, even the Torygraph doesn't seem to have been able to establish a link with immigration.

Maybe they had better hope that Scotland doesn't vote for independence, though - migrating to higher ground might be on the agenda in years to come!


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ear...new-study.html

Buy high! A Maori oilfield worker used to tell my brother that all the time in Dubai, "Buy high bro, or grow gills"

Climate change zealots are just posh anti-capitalists or looking for a new religion.

Fancy treating yourself to a badge (whatever happened to all those badges worn by Activists)

http://www.zazzle.co.uk/anti+global+warming+stickers

Another fan of physics I see. You keep shaking your pitchfork at the moon Jacky.

Bit rough up Northern Spain too...we're doomed

http://ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2014/02/...774_1391342862

Watching a polar bear drown because the ice floes are further apart than they can swim is actually not nearly as amusing as you might at first think.

Could it be blamed on the obesity crisis, everyone getting bigger/heavier etc.

No, but there is considerable disagreement in the independent scientific community. (By independent I mean those whose stipends and grants do not depend on supporting the anthropogenic argument).
I'm suggesting that arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin diverts attention from the real issues, which are the effects and not the causes.

Whereas there is evidence of a causal link between carbon dioxide and global temperature there is by no means agreement on which comes first. The fossil record shows increases in 'captured' carbon during prehistoric times of global warming - and were certainly not man made. I believe that there is no definitive proof of the causes and so I will continue to sit on the fence, although I do accept the evidence of the effects.