Originally Posted by rugbymatt

The only thing in question Jo is how fast we are damaging the climate, not if we are or not. You started off by claiming that physics was just a theory, then you said that there was no proof we were responsible for the climate change and now you are saying that we are responsible but no one can be sure exactly how much... You never know Jo, we might actually turn you into a believer.

Originally Posted by jojojojojo

I've never changed anything I've said or thought. I dont believe as you seem to that its imminent and we're all gonna burn and die. I certainly dont take any notice of the silly links that are posted by the "believers", nor do I like the title "believers or deniers" its far too complicated than that - which is why I dont understand how anyone can simply have blind faith and "believe" - the only scientists who act like that are those who have a hypothesis and a stipend to protect. However, I take notice of those who actually understand and appear to have some knowledge and Garbatellamike seems to have and I agree with what he says - he makes sense. So, no I will never be a "believer" that simplifies a very complicated subject and deniers - well they dont deny, they have open minds and want proof - not the silly links posted on here so please dont waste your time posting more. Its a bit like betting on a horse race - we can argue about which one is gonna win cos we "know" and we have links that prove our horse is better than yours - but its not til the race is finished that we will know the answer! All I do know is that so far, the evidence from the IPCC isnt standing up and there are far too many discrepancies

Jo xxx

Originally Posted by jojojojojo

Lets stop now, this could go on forever!! Humans live on the earth and they use the earths resources to make their lives more comfortable. The climate changes always has, always will

Jo xxx

Originally Posted by jackytoo

Has anyone noticed the pattern of some posters hinting that anyone who doesn't agree with their beliefs are somehow idiots...pathetic

Originally Posted by jojojojojo

..... and another thing. The government are no longer referring to it as "warming", due to the unquestionable change in their computers predictive figures and the news from their so called experts, they are now referring to it as "climate change", which tends to make me question that they have a clue at all. Lets face it, they have enough trouble predicting the weather for next week, let alone for the next millennium!

Jo xxx

Originally Posted by jojojojojo

Thats the point, none of us know, we're simply listening to a bunch of scientists, some say one thing, some say another - but since its inconclusive, its too complex for anyone to answer. I think Garbatellamike hit the nail on the head in his earlier post - thats exactly how it is - go back and read it!

Jo xxx

Originally Posted by jojojojojo

Your total lack of understanding is more worrying. Adjusting the way we consume - right, so we keep the things you want us to, but only if it doesnt put anyone out - so what shall we allow to stay?? Maybe just one little baby power station so that we're all allowed an hours worth of electricity a day?? One oil refinery?? - and all of this "adjusting" will do what exactly??? Make the world go cold again?? so that our grandchildren can live with the one power station??

You're too simplistic, you're missing out huge inaccuracies by your experts, you're being brainwashed by the tabloids who are out to sell sensationalism and you really havent grasped the whole issue - its not about the heat created by burning - heck, plants need CO2 to live and they turn it into oxygen...............So thats actually something we should think about. I've said it before, but everyone should plant at least one tree in their gardens every year - that would help and in 50,000 years time, our ancestors would have something to burn lol!!



Jo xxx

Originally Posted by jimenato

Whoever said it had anything to do with the heat created by burning? Such stunning ignorance! I can't believe you said that. Either you know nothing whatever about the issues or you are trolling.

Originally Posted by worriedmom

get a life ah

Originally Posted by jimenato

Hello. Would you like to make a meaningful contribution?

Originally Posted by Domino

not having looked here for a little while I find that it is degenerating to gutter as the British Standards thread in PDT - full of muck slinging, personal abuse and heckling. Nothing constructive other than knocking people for being... well people with differing views.

Quite honestly BES has fallen below its normal high standards of conduct, perhaps this thread should be moved to the dross level of PDT

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