So are you now saying as a stalwart defender of the Treaty of Utrecht that the UK should return the Falklands to Spain.
Or finally do you accept that the treaty is just an interesting historical bit of paper that is a relevant to today as are some of the 1000,s of treaties the UK has signed over the centuries.

(she sighs and chuckles)

Moody says Gib message getting through despite Spain

by Alice Mascarenhas

Spain continues to throw a spanner in the works ensuring Gibraltar does not fully benefit from its EU membership, Labour MEP for the South West region, Clare Moody has insisted. But Gibraltar’s message in Europe is getting through even if the Rock’s message needed to be repeated constantly.

In Gibraltar at the weekend, attending the British Islands and Mediterranean Region Commonwealth Women Parliamentarians Conference, she admitted it “was frustrating” and that therefore the pressure needed to be kept up.

Gibraltar Chronicle - The Independent Daily First Published 1801

Notice any similarities?

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You mean with the waste of money quangos that used to exist in the UK under past Governments.

When is Gibraltar hosting next conference of the left handed ,one legged, black and Asian lesbian alliance.
Sounded like another jolly for pointless politicians,

Anachronistic though it is, Utrecht is the basis of the (extremely tenuous) claim Spain has on Gibraltar, there is no other. So tear it up I say.

Laughable? well not really

Local car impounded for carrying ‘One Packet’ of cigarettes!

There was no publicity given by the Spanish Authorities a few days ago when the Guardia Civil (GC) impounded a local car for a tobacco related offence. But this was no regular incident involving the intentional smuggling of cigarettes. The GC have kept quiet and have not embarked on their usual ritual of issuing a press statement or calling the press when they seize cigarettes.

A few days ago a locally registered car was impounded for crossing the frontier with One Packet of Cigarettes yes you read correctly, one packet of cigarettes!

Sounds ridiculous, but it’s absolutely true, no wonder they kept quiet and did not engage ‘press overdrive’ because of the pettiness and embarrassment of making such an incident public. The official GC operational report confirms this.

Full story:-

http://www.panorama.gi/localnews/hea...12913&offset=0

Is there a British grant to Gibraltar?

- No, the last British subsidy to Gibraltar occurred in 1986. That was direct development aid that the UK then gave to all territories. Since then we have not received any more. The whole economy of Gibraltar generates revenue from tourism, the service industry and cruises. The UK does not give us anything.

http://www.panorama.gi/localnews/hea...12912&offset=0

You forgot the tax haven bit , must run into millions ? The gambling industry etc.

Looks like Spain isn't hurting from Gambling:
Spain Plans to Save Online Gambling Industry With New Casino Licenses | PokerNews

France, too:
Online gambling sites in France | Internet gambling in France | French gambling laws | GamingZion

Well, what do you know: Germany too:
EU Court Okays Separate German Licensing Regimes | Online Gambling News : CalvinAyre.com

Surprise, surprise:
Portugal Legalizes Online Poker

I see what you mean by widespread moral decay.

Goddam Gibraltar. before long, all of Europe will have it.
Gambling - European Commission

With regards to tax evasion and "shadow" economies:

Good News

Reneging on Cordoba: Spanish Government set to close Instituto Cervantes in Gibraltar. This according to the ABC Newspaper.

El Gobierno comienza a tramitar el cierre del Cervantes de Gibraltar - ABC.es

What ever you may think about the legality I do believe that restrictions will be applied to online gambling and tax revenue increased by those countries who permit it.
It will be the next equivalent of the pay day loan scandal as those who can least afford to gamble will be those most attracted by the ease they can gamble on line.

Fair enough. As we've always known, your opinions are much broader in scope than simply Gibraltar.

But curiously, I haven't seen you ranting about the immorality of gambling on any other thread, yet you accuse Gibraltar of engaging in this and other "immoral" acts on a daily basis - Ironically, all things that others are far more involved in - or "guilty of" - if that's your moral opinion.

So, what is so unique about Gibraltar?

You still do not get it do you.This is a thread about Gibraltar therefore any act or policy that takes place in Gibraltar is relevant.
Putting to one side the threats of uncontrolled internet gambling anywhere in the world , Gibraltar is home to UK companies who are active in this field who use Gibraltars status to avoid tax.
If there were not significant inducements then no one in their right mind would want to live and work there given the choice considering the limitations we hear of almost on a daily basis.
Full marks to the UK government for its policy of trying to tax the activities of these companies in the UK.
Knowing the Portuguese I expect to see them follow suit and tax bets placed from Portugal.

But that's your opinion.

I'm asking what Gibraltar demonstrably has to do with it and why it's unique. In all this time, you haven't yet provided anything tangible, except your opinions.

Look, you could claim the very same things about Malta, Monaco, or even Madrid, and it could all very well be equally as circumstantially true - especially when offered as an opinion.

So, what is unique about Gibraltar, and why is your venom for all things you despise, focused solely on that place alone? What?

Not just negative, imagined and unsuported then?


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