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Old Jan 10th 2021, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Joppa
I was talking to a local British shopkeeper and he was quite pessimistic. It will be more difficult, he said, to import fresh food because of the customs delay and extra charge being levied by hauliers to compensate for increased paperwork, and ban on animal-based products including dairies will hit the best-selling lines. I for one am not too bothered, like you, as I am happy to eat Spanish and continental products generally, provided I can get certain seasonal products like cranberry sauce.
I would have thought a lot of meat and dairy products could be sourced from Irish suppliers, quite a few lines from the British shop I have used already come from suppliers in the ROI.
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Old Jan 10th 2021, 9:37 pm
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Is it me or is Brexit is having the opposite effect to what was intended?
It's not you.
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Old Jan 10th 2021, 9:48 pm
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Originally Posted by DLC
Looks like it's an even closer agreement than what e.g. Andorra has and the border/customs problem is pushed back up to GB, i.e. there would be similar problems putting stuff on a boat and going to Gib as there currently are going to NI.

Is it me or is Brexit is having the opposite effect to what was intended?
As far as I can see other than logistics there are no problems putting things on boats to deliver to Gib. Gib is no longer in the EU and therefore EU rules no longer exist unlike NI.
Also these deliveries to Gib are now taking place.

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Originally Posted by Lynn R
this Christmas my husband's Stilton came from Lidl and it was fine,
Lynn please correct me if I am wrong but I thought Stilton was a product with protection under the designated origin rules or has this all gone since Brexit?
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Old Jan 10th 2021, 10:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
As far as I can see other than logistics there are no problems putting things on boats to deliver to Gib. Gib is no longer in the EU and therefore EU rules no longer exist unlike NI.
Also these deliveries to Gib are now taking place.
I mean when this agreement is signed off and goes into effect.

At the moment Gib is out of the single market and customs union. When this agreement is agreed it will for all practical purposes be inside it, with Spain reserving the right to conduct spot checks for certain products on their side of the border.

So once Gib is effectively inside the single market and customs union, a similar situation will arise between GB and Gib as there is now between GB and NI.

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Seems I can't edit. I've just realise it says deserving instead of reserving. Damn autoincorrect.
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Seems I can't edit. I've just realise it says deserving instead of reserving. Damn autoincorrect.
You are able to edit but there is a time limit of about 2 hours. I have changed it for you.

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
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It would appear that next Christmas for expats living in the EU it will be Port and no Stilton no Melton Mowbray pork pies, no Cornish Pasties or Greggs sausage rolls, no proper bacon for breakfast.
Also no Haggis for the New Year, etc.
Highly unlikely that will be the case , especially the availability of Port , the other items should highlight a business opportunity for an enterprising expat baker.
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Highly unlikely that will be the case , especially the availability of Port , the other items should highlight a business opportunity for an enterprising expat baker.
The British owned butcher's shop I mentioned earlier already makes and sells a whole range of pies including pork ones. I've only tried a chicken and leek one so far but that was very nice so things are looking good. Oh, and they sell sausage rolls as well. I've only tried a Greggs sausage roll once when I lived in the UK and I wouldn't care to repeat the experience.
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Surely all of these things can be legally imported - just not for personal use.

I'd imagine that the likes of Iceland will still carry them.

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Originally Posted by Lynn R
The British owned butcher's shop I mentioned earlier already makes and sells a whole range of pies including pork ones. I've only tried a chicken and leek one so far but that was very nice so things are looking good. Oh, and they sell sausage rolls as well. I've only tried a Greggs sausage roll once when I lived in the UK and I wouldn't care to repeat the experience.
Sounds good not that I`ve found the need to search out traditional English junk food , Spanish markets and supermarkets offer a huge array of choice anyway.
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I mean when this agreement is signed off and goes into effect.

At the moment Gib is out of the single market and customs union. When this agreement is agreed it will for all practical purposes be inside it, with Spain reserving the right to conduct spot checks for certain products on their side of the border.

So once Gib is effectively inside the single market and customs union, a similar situation will arise between GB and Gib as there is now between GB and NI.
Gib has never been in The Customs Union and I don't suppose it will join now. For that reason I imagine there to be a physical border even if it joins Schengen.
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Surely all of these things can be legally imported - just not for personal use.

I'd imagine that the likes of Iceland will still carry them.
I would have thought so too. It's just that (currently at any rate) people living in Spain can't bring them across the border so won't be patronising Gibraltar shops to buy them. Prices, I suppose, may well rise as its understandable that exporters may well need to pass on to customers the costs of extra administration and transport costs.
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Originally Posted by Lynn R
I would have thought so too. It's just that (currently at any rate) people living in Spain can't bring them across the border so won't be patronising Gibraltar shops to buy them. Prices, I suppose, may well rise as its understandable that exporters may well need to pass on to customers the costs of extra administration and transport costs.
You are surely right.

On 'personal use', apparently today Dutch customs officers were confiscating ham sandwiches from lorry drivers coming from the UK.

When asked if they could take the ham out but keep the bread, the officers said 'No - it all has to go. Welcome to Brexit'.
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You are surely right.

On 'personal use', apparently today Dutch customs officers were confiscating ham sandwiches from lorry drivers coming from the UK.

When asked if they could take the ham out but keep the bread, the officers said 'No - it all has to go. Welcome to Brexit'.
I read about that. I suppose if we can ever fly again we will still be able to take sandwiches on board a plane from the UK, as long as they have been consumed before we disembark in an EU country?
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