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That's precisely what the Costa Concordia is doing for those reasons.

You suggested it was leaning to starboard because it had been holed on that side as well.

Yes, I am well aware that the only boats likely to be deliberately grounded are bilge keeled or flat bottomed boats.

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No Fred, she is obviously damaged on that side, and is lying on her side.

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You can almost understand it being done in daylight in the middle of July when the island is full of tourists to watch her go by, but on a dark winter's night in January - crazy!

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Multihulls, barges,majority of motorboats both pleasure and working etc. etc.

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Why ?

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Fred, this was my point,. She is obviously damaged on that side, and at this time we don't know where or when that happened. Until all of the facts are officially published, it is wrong to apportion blame.

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Multihulls, unless they are lifting keels, cant take the ground. The rest of them act in the same way as a flat bottomed boat and will follow the slope of the sea bed.

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So far there has been no indication that she is damaged on the starboard side.
The fact that she is stbd down could be due to many factors

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Then followed a sharp left u-turn back towards the port, which could possibly account for the way it was listing as it reached its final resting point.

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Another cruise liner lying on her starboard side with port side damage is the MS Mikhail Lermontov

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ms+...w=1920&bih=913

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Mikhail_Lermontov

Re: Cruise ship on the rocks
 

You need to take a closer look at multihulls.

However I never mentioned the way they would lie, but I do agree with you on that point so long as it is an accidental grounding. If planned then the boat would normally be ballasted to lean up the slope.

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We could go on like this ad infinitum, I don't intend to, I have better things to do!!!!
I rest my case and I think you'll find that 'legal eagles' would agree, that nobody actually knows for certain, the sequence of events that caused this to happen, and until negligence is proven, the man should be not be vilified by a bunch of barrack room lawyers!

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Crazy Italians showing off!

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Good to see there was none of that "women and children first" rubbish. The crew made it safely a shore before anyone could shout "Abandon Ship"!. :(

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Apparently several hundred passengers thought the announcement was "a band on ship", so unlike the speedy el capitano they were in no great hurry to depart.



http://www.wildcoastholidays.com/att...hipwrecks.html

Seems this Captain and Crew before passengers business is a typical Med Country tradition.




An interesting interview with the seemingly complacent Captain of the Costa Concordia from just over a year ago.

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-...117-1q468.html

Quite a number of his remarks will surely come back to haunt him.




An interesting view suggesting that the crew already knew they were in bad trouble and tried to steer out of it as I previously suggested, also possibly explaining the captains statement that the ship hit the rock sideways.
According to the tracking system he'd already gone dangerously close to the shore before trying to swing back out.
Even if he was planning a show-off cruise-by, it's a mystery how he ended up almost on the shore at that particular point to the South of both the danger area and the town itself.


""I think you are correct here and the fact that the stablisor is still intact on the port side with the gash starting some way behind it and on the same level, suggests that the ship sharply veared to starboard to try to miss something. Thus hitting the boulder with a sideways scrape after the stablisor had cleared. To state that the ship hit an uncharted rock during a normal forward drive is preposterous as in that case the stablisor would have been snapped off first.""

Sorry lost the link and apologies for the guys spelling.

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Never been a yachty, but surely if a ship sinks to the bottom, regardles of where it`s been holed, it will lean to the side opposite where there is most pressure on it ?
Sort of up the beach, same as where the waves are going. ;);)

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Likewise,no yachty myself, but I would have thought that the surge of water to the starboard from the sharp 180 degree turn would be the reason it was listing in that direction when beached.


http://news.uk.msn.com/live-updates/...ship-disaster/

Part of the shocking arguement/disagreement between Captain and Coastguard, a recording of which has just been aired on TV news.

Seems the brave Captain was afraid of the dark and just wanted to go home regardless of all the passengers still on the wreck struggling to save themselves.