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chrismortley Aug 8th 2008 9:17 pm

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Originally Posted by olivia (Post 6659775)
Hi
Pound to Euro finished 1.2753 today. Thats looking better isn't it?

And still rising,it looks like the ECB have made a worse job of their economy than us & there is a good possibility of the euro base rate coming down ?
There could be another couple of cents improvement in the near future.
It probable won't make much difference to us just buying euros to pay for our lager vouchers, but for the people who may have to make their final payment on their properties it could make hell of a difference.
Saying that our Spanish mortgage has just gone up 30 euros a month

MEL & JOHN Aug 9th 2008 2:38 am

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Hi

A friend who is in CE has sent an email to say how pleased they are that the shop by the townhouses has opened, tables and chairs outside, lovely fresh bread and her son rates the ice-creams....how good is that !! A little more expensive that the town supermarkets, as we would all expect, but the fact that is accessible without a car is a bonus. A PLEA......everytime you are out there, or people are using your house for a holiday, please lets all buy from the shop and make sure we "use so we don't lose it". That and the golf club, hey things are looking up folks !!

Take care all

Mel

Fortaleza Aug 9th 2008 3:07 am

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LOL

mark donna Aug 9th 2008 3:56 am

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after reading fortalezas posts about his opinions on hotels over the last few days i have come to the opinion he is living in a very sheltered world if he believes that the 2 major ingrediants of a sucsessful hotel is a beach or to be in a city, were would he put gleneagles in scotland or celtic manor in wales in his theory as i think they are the 2 most famous hotels in there respective countries gleneagles especially is very isolated.hotels now are much more then just a place for a dirty weekend or a place to rest your head. im working on a new hotel in liverpool now and the owner has made his money on renting blocks of rooms from hotel chains for seminars and confrences all over europe rumour has it that he is a billionaire. what is the new building for when you drive into ayamonte is this not some kind of conferance centre which would need a hotel close by. ayamonte will need tourism to sustain any growth and wealth, and the hotel in esuri will become part of that growth. for anyone reading fortalezas posts from outside would think the hotel is just a pipedream but it isnt its virtually built and i would bet on the hotel and marina being part of the landscape within 8 years. quinta do vale over the river has just passed its next phase of permission for a marina. its a good job fortaleza was not walt disneys understudy he'd of never of given the go ahead for the magic kingdom (but walt its 100 miles from the nearest beach no one will come)

Mitzyboy Aug 9th 2008 4:07 am

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Originally Posted by mark donna (Post 6662808)
he'd of never of given the go ahead for the magic kingdom (but walt its 100 miles from the nearest beach no one will come)

Isn't there some other kind of attraction to Walts hotels though :confused: Just can't remember :)

shirley and anthony hide Aug 9th 2008 4:15 am

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Originally Posted by betris (Post 6660154)
well its obvious you havent been to liverpool.they even tell you a joke while there robbing you.most scoucers have a sence of humor.mind you you have to to live there


What!! you come from Liverppol I would never have guessed. I mean you only harp on about it every other post.I think we all get the picture now and you are no doubt the sixth Beatle as well.

AndyS Aug 9th 2008 4:37 am

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Need some help please. We're over in a weeks time bring daughter aged 14 plus her friend, same age. Thought it would be a breeze....swimming pool, beach, shopping. But no, they are currently in Chamonix and so far have done white water rafting, luge, tree top rope climbing and kite flying (strapped to it with an instructor!!). So we have a challenge to provide some adventurous stuff for them. Any ideas please. Also is there anywhere in Ayamonte I can hire bikes for them?
Thanks
:confused:

Fortaleza Aug 9th 2008 4:48 am

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Originally Posted by mark donna (Post 6662808)
after reading fortalezas posts about his opinions on hotels over the last few days i have come to the opinion he is living in a very sheltered world if he believes that the 2 major ingrediants of a sucsessful hotel is a beach or to be in a city, were would he put gleneagles in scotland or celtic manor in wales in his theory as i think they are the 2 most famous hotels in there respective countries gleneagles especially is very isolated.hotels now are much more then just a place for a dirty weekend or a place to rest your head. im working on a new hotel in liverpool now and the owner has made his money on renting blocks of rooms from hotel chains for seminars and confrences all over europe rumour has it that he is a billionaire. what is the new building for when you drive into ayamonte is this not some kind of conferance centre which would need a hotel close by. ayamonte will need tourism to sustain any growth and wealth, and the hotel in esuri will become part of that growth. for anyone reading fortalezas posts from outside would think the hotel is just a pipedream but it isnt its virtually built and i would bet on the hotel and marina being part of the landscape within 8 years. quinta do vale over the river has just passed its next phase of permission for a marina. its a good job fortaleza was not walt disneys understudy he'd of never of given the go ahead for the magic kingdom (but walt its 100 miles from the nearest beach no one will come)

So, just so we're clear. Costa Esuri is like:

a. Disneyland (well it is a place of dreams, that is true)
b. based next to Ayamonte which is the same as Newport (population 140,00-ish) and the Gwent Valleys, at least another 50,000-ish, with the cities of Cardiff (around 340,000-ish) and Bristol (at a guess 400,000-ish) less than 25 miles in either direction, so with three cities and a catchment area - and importantly, all the infrastructure and business that provides - of not too far shy of 1 million people, this can be likened to Ayamonte??? You say you're in the hotel business, but I doubt if you're part of strategic planning
c. Geneagles, not too sure of the demographics here but surely it's near Perth?? Which I guess would give it a population of around 160,000??? Plus, I'm sure I've heard of Gleneagles - don't they do golf or something? Seems quite famous.
d. The Ayamonte council are a bit peeved that the Islantilla Conference Centre, with its several 4 and 5 star hotels at its side, opened up a good three years before they could open theirs. It had a fantastic year last year and is on course to do even better this year, especially with the opposition party's annual national conference held there. They will have to work some to make theirs competitive with one only 15 mins away that is a) better served by hotels and apartments, b) already has a successful track record and c) is in a more idylic location with sea views.

Anyway, the hotel is not a pipedream - that the Hilton would take an interest is. Categorical denial from European director last week as it doesn't fit with the brand.

The hotel is there - work stopped, but there all the same. Just a question of waiting to see who takes it. As I said before - maybe you missed it - the Fuerte chain would be a good solution, given their track record with projects of this size

EsuriJohn Aug 9th 2008 5:02 am

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Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 6662697)
LOL

Is that Lots of Love coz your leaving us?

EsuriJohn Aug 9th 2008 5:09 am

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Originally Posted by AndyS (Post 6662902)
Need some help please. We're over in a weeks time bring daughter aged 14 plus her friend, same age. Thought it would be a breeze....swimming pool, beach, shopping. But no, they are currently in Chamonix and so far have done white water rafting, luge, tree top rope climbing and kite flying (strapped to it with an instructor!!). So we have a challenge to provide some adventurous stuff for them. Any ideas please. Also is there anywhere in Ayamonte I can hire bikes for them?
Thanks
:confused:

Andy you can hire bikes down in Isla Canela Marina Jurs shop (he has the big Rib which would be a big adventure if he is taking it out). There used to be somewhere in Rago 2 but not sure if it is still there saw an ad in the oracle a while back. There's the water park and Kart track on the way to El Portil from Cartaya.

GerryW Aug 9th 2008 5:11 am

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Anyone know any good Ayamonte (or near) architects.

I know of Piers ford - any others?

Thanks

Fortaleza Aug 9th 2008 5:12 am

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Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 6662965)
Is that Lots of Love coz your leaving us?

That's Laugh Out Loud because plead as you might, when it comes to doing the shopping, if they can get it cheaper and easier elsewhere, how long do you think the novelty of "use it or lose it" will last? Then there's the Tuck Truck too also doing business. Use it by all means to get your little odds and sods you may have forgotten or run out of and can't be arsed to go into town for, but please - with a Mercadona (not my favourite but another argument for another day;)) just minutes away, the 'let's get behind the local guy' won't last that long. He should do well, though, if he's operating as a bar as well - providing no-one gives him a denuncia for operating under several epigrafos, unless of course he's got all those (pricey little beggars) in place ;)

EsuriJohn Aug 9th 2008 5:12 am

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Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 6662936)
So, just so we're clear. Costa Esuri is like:

a. Disneyland (well it is a place of dreams, that is true)
b. based next to Ayamonte which is the same as Newport (population 140,00-ish) and the Gwent Valleys, at least another 50,000-ish, with the cities of Cardiff (around 340,000-ish) and Bristol (at a guess 400,000-ish) less than 25 miles in either direction, so with three cities and a catchment area - and importantly, all the infrastructure and business that provides - of not too far shy of 1 million people, this can be likened to Ayamonte??? You say you're in the hotel business, but I doubt if you're part of strategic planning
c. Geneagles, not too sure of the demographics here but surely it's near Perth?? Which I guess would give it a population of around 160,000??? Plus, I'm sure I've heard of Gleneagles - don't they do golf or something? Seems quite famous.
d. The Ayamonte council are a bit peeved that the Islantilla Conference Centre, with its several 4 and 5 star hotels at its side, opened up a good three years before they could open theirs. It had a fantastic year last year and is on course to do even better this year, especially with the opposition party's annual national conference held there. They will have to work some to make theirs competitive with one only 15 mins away that is a) better served by hotels and apartments, b) already has a successful track record and c) is in a more idylic location with sea views.

Anyway, the hotel is not a pipedream - that the Hilton would take an interest is. Categorical denial from European director last week as it doesn't fit with the brand.

The hotel is there - work stopped, but there all the same. Just a question of waiting to see who takes it. As I said before - maybe you missed it - the Fuerte chain would be a good solution, given their track record with projects of this size

Newport Shropshire is a bit smaller but a lovely little place.

Fortaleza Aug 9th 2008 5:13 am

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Originally Posted by GerryW (Post 6662990)
Anyone know any good Ayamonte (or near) architects.

I know of Piers ford - any others?

Thanks

I know of some excellent architects here Gerry, but they are Spanish. Would that suit? They have the added advantage of being enchufe-ied too, leading to less red tape with the powers that be

GerryW Aug 9th 2008 5:16 am

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Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 6662997)
I know of some excellent architects here Gerry, but they are Spanish. Would that suit? They have the added advantage of being enchufe-ied too, leading to less red tape with the powers that be

That would be brilliant..thanks Fort..Ger


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