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Yorkshire Scratcher Feb 2nd 2008 1:05 am

COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 
It is disapointing that the previous thread was summarily shut down. I appreciate that it has taken a direction beyond that which may have been intended.

However, the original thread became a means of communication for many of us who are not full time resident at CE. It has been invaluable to a number of us setting up an action group against Fadesa for what they have done on Rago 1. Yes it may be that things do get sorted eventually, but to those that do not live on site we have no way of being able to face upto Fadesa on a daily basis...the communications that we have set up through the original thread have certainly helped things progress.

I am sorry that this may appear a negative use of a thread, but it is a reality that what Fadesa has left on Rago 1 is poor by any standard.

Yes, there have been many negative posts about CE which seem to be unfounded, but the last time I checked we still had freedom of expression and opinion.

Also, the thread has been used by many to arrange golf and establish new friendships.....again this benefits many people who are not full time residents.

So here goes with a new thread.

jdr Feb 2nd 2008 1:20 am

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As Sam was the original poster and it was her baby then it was up to her what happened to it and I think she prefered to close it and let people open their own threads.
No problem with any amount of threads, you may find it easier to search for stuff later if you you want to talk about golf or whatever to start an individual thread for each subject
If they relate to Spain then post in the Spain forum, if not then post in the Siesta forum that is a sort of lounge and covers anything that is not only relevent to Spain.

EsuriJohn Feb 2nd 2008 1:22 am

COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 
Hi All Esurians,

I understand the sentiment being expressed by Sam BUT it is essential to keep open lines of communications between all those who have bought on Esuri and those who will do so in the future.

I also think it is essential to try as best as we can to keep the thread factual but in the absence of any communications from Fadesa we cannot always verify what we hear and it is often only by following up the rumours that we can get at the truth.

Kath and I are in for the long haul and would hope that we can keep all posts of a positive nature but that does not mean that criticism should not be made where it is deserved particularly in the way Fadesa behave and their dilatory way in taking forward the completion of the urbanisation.

I must finish this first post with a huge vote of thanks, I hope from us all, to Sam and Benny for everything they have done both through this thread and in person to help us all overcome the butterflies of buying and moving to gods corner of the universe in Ayamonte Spain.

Regards, :D

John.

EsuriJohn Feb 2nd 2008 1:26 am

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Originally Posted by Yorkshire Scratcher (Post 5873558)
It is disapointing that the previous thread was summarily shut down. I appreciate that it has taken a direction beyond that which may have been intended.

However, the original thread became a means of communication for many of us who are not full time resident at CE. It has been invaluable to a number of us setting up an action group against Fadesa for what they have done on Rago 1. Yes it may be that things do get sorted eventually, but to those that do not live on site we have no way of being able to face upto Fadesa on a daily basis...the communications that we have set up through the original thread have certainly helped things progress.

I am sorry that this may appear a negative use of a thread, but it is a reality that what Fadesa has left on Rago 1 is poor by any standard.

Yes, there have been many negative posts about CE which seem to be unfounded, but the last time I checked we still had freedom of expression and opinion.

Also, the thread has been used by many to arrange golf and establish new friendships.....again this benefits many people who are not full time residents.

So here goes with a new thread.

I have also started a new thread and I would not wish to compete with yours so perhaps we should ask jdr to combine them and if you don't mind under my title since it is the nearest we can get to the old one and will perhaps be easier to find for those who are not logged on all the time. Would you agree?

Regards,

John.

PS you must be a much better and quicker typist than me!

esmesgran Feb 2nd 2008 1:35 am

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Hi
Thanks for getting the new thread started, you are right and this is a fantastic source of information. Everyone has been so generous sharing their knowledge and we would all be worse off if we didn't continue it.
Muchisimas gracias:)

CAROL ELIZABETH Feb 2nd 2008 1:37 am

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Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 5873616)
Hi All Esurians,

I understand the sentiment being expressed by Sam BUT it is essential to keep open lines of communications between all those who have bought on Esuri and those who will do so in the future.

I also think it is essential to try as best as we can to keep the thread factual but in the absence of any communications from Fadesa we cannot always verify what we hear and it is often only by following up the rumours that we can get at the truth.

Kath and I are in for the long haul and would hope that we can keep all posts of a positive nature but that does not mean that criticism should not be made where it is deserved particularly in the way Fadesa behave and their dilatory way in taking forward the completion of the urbanisation.

I must finish this first post with a huge vote of thanks, I hope from us all, to Sam and Benny for everything they have done both through this thread and in person to help us all overcome the butterflies of buying and moving to gods corner of the universe in Ayamonte Spain.

Regards, :D

John.

Thanks for getting this new thread going John and I agree with everything you say. I was shocked to switch on today to find the thread was being closed - I certainly did not know that the original 'owner' had the right to do this. I have found the thread extremely helpful and supportive but I can also understand the fears Sam has any negativity might have on the development of Esur. Things have not gone as I expected it but this thread has been instrumental in helping us to influence and plan. Information can now be made available worldwide - it is the world we live in - it is not possible to 'close' it down. Esuri is huge and will therefore always attract a large number of people wanting to share their experiences, plans and lives.

CAROL ELIZABETH Feb 2nd 2008 1:42 am

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Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 5873633)
I have also started a new thread and I would not wish to compete with yours so perhaps we should ask jdr to combine them and if you don't mind under my title since it is the nearest we can get to the old one and will perhaps be easier to find for those who are not logged on all the time. Would you agree?

Regards,

John.

PS you must be a much better and quicker typist than me!

I am assuming JDR the old thread cannot be found in any shape or form - it was a mine of info - contacts names etc and I only made a note of some - we will have to rely on you John now even more!

Think it might be an idea to combine both.

Mitzyboy Feb 2nd 2008 1:47 am

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Originally Posted by CAROL ELIZABETH (Post 5873688)
I am assuming JDR the old thread cannot be found in any shape or form - it was a mine of info - contacts names etc and I only made a note of some - we will have to rely on you John now even more!

Think it might be an idea to combine both.

I have merged the two threads :)

Yorkshire Scratcher Feb 2nd 2008 1:56 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5873701)
I have merged the two threads :)

Yes, a big thanks to Sam and Benny. Without their efforts I am sure that the learning curve would have been much steeper for us all.

I am confident that in a few years all will have settled down and we will look back and laugh (or cry).

Pollyana Feb 2nd 2008 2:03 am

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Originally Posted by CAROL ELIZABETH (Post 5873688)
I am assuming JDR the old thread cannot be found in any shape or form - it was a mine of info - contacts names etc and I only made a note of some - we will have to rely on you John now even more!

Think it might be an idea to combine both.

The old thread is still here
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=397668
It's just closed, not deleted.

Mitzyboy Feb 2nd 2008 2:05 am

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 5873766)
The old thread is still here
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=397668
It's just closed, not deleted.

Correct, but I suggest you make a note of the thread url as it will slowly slip down the pages

EsuriJohn Feb 2nd 2008 2:16 am

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 5873766)
The old thread is still here
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=397668
It's just closed, not deleted.

I think if you search back all parts of the thread except part one are still there so you can look at 2, 3 and 4. I don't know what happened at the end of part 1 but it must have been brutal cause Sue hid it from our eyes.

wheatsheaf42 Feb 2nd 2008 3:06 am

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Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 5873831)
I think if you search back all parts of the thread except part one are still there so you can look at 2, 3 and 4. I don't know what happened at the end of part 1 but it must have been brutal cause Sue hid it from our eyes.

Surely not as brutal as the damage to the Costa's coastline by concrete, as evidenced by Esuri.

jdr Feb 2nd 2008 3:13 am

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Originally Posted by CAROL ELIZABETH (Post 5873688)
I am assuming JDR the old thread cannot be found in any shape or form - it was a mine of info - contacts names etc and I only made a note of some - we will have to rely on you John now even more!

Think it might be an idea to combine both.

The thread is still there, the same as the other three parts of it, although like you say it is hard to find anything in it. It would be much easier to make a thread for each subject and then in future if anyone wants to search for golf or bus or taxi or building info they only have to look in that thread.

yvonne52 Feb 2nd 2008 4:05 am

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I totally understand where Sam is coming from because I'm fed up of all the negative vibe as well.
I've had my ups and downs since moving into our property - mainly due to Fadesa 'back-up' team not knowing what they were doing or probably more like 'not interested'. There are some problems that are ongoing - these will be sorted !!!! (and I speak from experience as having property in Spain for about 18 years) It just takes time.
I have no regrets about buying at Esuri but, there again, I bought because I loved the area and culture. I do worry about the number of houses up for sale but I know that some people were just being 'greedy' and thought they could make a 'fast buck'. It doesn't work like that. So in the meantime don't do the place down 'cos it doesn't deserve it - it still has to grow.

EsuriJohn Feb 2nd 2008 4:33 am

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Originally Posted by wheatsheaf42 (Post 5874010)
Surely not as brutal as the damage to the Costa's coastline by concrete, as evidenced by Esuri.

I think you will find that Urbanisation Costa Esuri is between 7 and 10 kilometers behind the nearest coast and beach. Also there is no construction within at least a kilometer of the tidal part of the of the River Guadiana. All of the salt marshes have been preserved and are a protected Natural Zone. The overall built density on the urbanisation is restricted by the Junta Andalucia to no more than 15% and as the development is completed the golf courses and green areas will be irrigated by "grey water" recycled within Costa Esuri. I am not saying it is perfect just that it has been thought through by the responsible authorities be be as least damaging as you can be when you build a new town. :unsure:

PS you might be thinking of Isla Canela Beach resort and Isla Canela Marina resort which have caused a huge amount of controversy

JS&SS Feb 2nd 2008 6:56 am

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Hola,
We too are very disappointed that the old thread has been closed but very pleased that this new one has started so quickly. It only took a few clicks to find it.
It was through the old forum that we decided to visit Esuri and are now eagerly awaiting completion on our townhouse on RVA 1 Manzana 2. Sam's enthusiasm for the development certainly rubbed off and we will sorely miss her contributions.
The information posted has been invaluable to us - where we can match kitchen units, where are the best furniture packages, info on the golf etc. Sure - there will always be negative postings, but we have ignored these as there will always be small minded people who thrive on disruption and negativity. Perhaps the whingers should start their own forum.
Should part of the moderation on this forum be to remove the negative comments from people who obviously don't want to say anything good about the development?
John and I are in this for the long term - we don't want to sell. In fact we want to be in Esuri as much as we can. John is on countdown to retirement and the children leaving home - 2.5 years in the first case and maybe never in the second!!
We will be in Esuri w/c 10th Feb - we have never met in person anyone who has posted, apart from Bill McCall who has been an inspiration to us. If anyone is out this week, or is fortunate enough to be a resident, please drop us a pm and look forward to meeting you. Perhaps a rioja party in a furniture free town house?? We can do the builders clean later!!
Adios for now
John and Sue

Mitzyboy Feb 2nd 2008 9:01 am

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Originally Posted by JS&SS (Post 5874568)
Hola,
Should part of the moderation on this forum be to remove the negative comments from people who obviously don't want to say anything good about the development?

Do you mean that you think we should remove posts from people who have negative experiences just because other people dont agree with them? Don't you think that might amount to censorship?

rugbymatt Feb 2nd 2008 9:39 am

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Does this mean some of you lot will try and contribute to the rest of the Spain forum, or will you continue to remain the closed community you have been??

Same Difference Feb 2nd 2008 9:43 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5875094)
Does this mean some of you lot will try and contribute to the rest of the Spain forum, or will you continue to remain the closed community you have been??

Is this a hijack, can we all join in :sneaky:

rugbymatt Feb 2nd 2008 9:46 am

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Originally Posted by Same Difference (Post 5875113)
Is this a hijack, can we all join in :sneaky:

No not at all, just hoping that some of the reclusive people join in on a forum dedicated to Spain, not just CE.


What do you care anywhere, its not like you live near the dump any way.

Same Difference Feb 2nd 2008 9:52 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5875124)
No not at all, just hoping that some of the reclusive people join in on a forum dedicated to Spain, not just CE.


What do you care anywhere, its not like you live near the dump any way.

I just love your hijacks :wub:

rugbymatt Feb 2nd 2008 9:55 am

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Originally Posted by Same Difference (Post 5875147)
I just love your hijacks :wub:

I like to call them diversions........................


any way, I have been at the pub since 3pm watching the rugby and I think its time for bed........................


Sweet dreams.

Same Difference Feb 2nd 2008 9:56 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5875156)
I like to call them diversions........................


any way, I have been at the pub since 3pm watching the rugby and I think its time for bed........................


Sweet dreams.

Night.

EsuriJohn Feb 2nd 2008 11:15 am

Re: COSTA ESURI - AYAMONTE
 

Originally Posted by JS&SS (Post 5874568)
Hola,
We too are very disappointed that the old thread has been closed but very pleased that this new one has started so quickly. It only took a few clicks to find it.
It was through the old forum that we decided to visit Esuri and are now eagerly awaiting completion on our townhouse on RVA 1 Manzana 2. Sam's enthusiasm for the development certainly rubbed off and we will sorely miss her contributions.
The information posted has been invaluable to us - where we can match kitchen units, where are the best furniture packages, info on the golf etc. Sure - there will always be negative postings, but we have ignored these as there will always be small minded people who thrive on disruption and negativity. Perhaps the whingers should start their own forum.
Should part of the moderation on this forum be to remove the negative comments from people who obviously don't want to say anything good about the development?
John and I are in this for the long term - we don't want to sell. In fact we want to be in Esuri as much as we can. John is on countdown to retirement and the children leaving home - 2.5 years in the first case and maybe never in the second!!
We will be in Esuri w/c 10th Feb - we have never met in person anyone who has posted, apart from Bill McCall who has been an inspiration to us. If anyone is out this week, or is fortunate enough to be a resident, please drop us a pm and look forward to meeting you. Perhaps a rioja party in a furniture free town house?? We can do the builders clean later!!
Adios for now
John and Sue

RIU Atlantico 5th - 12th Feb but mostly up on Esuri at R 607 and Plaza de la Luguna any coffee shop. :thumbup:

EsuriJohn Feb 2nd 2008 11:17 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5875094)
Does this mean some of you lot will try and contribute to the rest of the Spain forum, or will you continue to remain the closed community you have been??

I'm everywhere and watching!! :sneaky:

Fortaleza Feb 2nd 2008 5:59 pm

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John,

Sent you the paper this morning. You should have it now!

Also to everyone else - by God there's loads of you!!! - you've been sent the paper.

I'd like to think that you all requested the paper because of its suprior writing and wonderful production values, but I imagine you just want the dirt on Superior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jdr Feb 2nd 2008 6:26 pm

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Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 5875481)
I'm everywhere and watching!! :sneaky:

Get some of the others to join you john. ;);)

There are some interesting threads about no electricity and doing small building works without permission and having the habitation licences blocked for the rest of the urbanization till it is sorted.

jdr Feb 2nd 2008 6:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 5876609)
John,

Sent you the paper this morning. You should have it now!

Also to everyone else - by God there's loads of you!!! - you've been sent the paper.

I'd like to think that you all requested the paper because of its suprior writing and wonderful production values, but I imagine you just want the dirt on Superior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You still haven`t put the link to it in your signature yet ?

Fortaleza Feb 2nd 2008 6:30 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 5876653)
You still haven`t put the link to it in your signature yet ?

Well you never bloody told I could do that before! :frown:

jdr Feb 2nd 2008 6:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 5876658)
Well you never bloody told I could do that before! :frown:

:rofl::rofl: pay attention and do as your told ;)

Why do you think I told you to read rule 9 about ten times. :thumbup::thumbup:

9. The forums, (including the private message and email systems), are not a venue for advertisements in any way. Please do not post promotional/advertising messages, urls, nor specifics that would lead people to your site/product/service. However, a single line in your signature with a link to your site is allowed. (For signature guidelines please read Rule 18.) It will be the sole discretion of britishexpats.com and its moderators as to what constitutes an advertisement.

Fortaleza Feb 2nd 2008 6:44 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 5876661)
:rofl::rofl: pay attention and do as your told ;)

Why do you think I told you to read rule 9 about ten times. :thumbup::thumbup:

9. The forums, (including the private message and email systems), are not a venue for advertisements in any way. Please do not post promotional/advertising messages, urls, nor specifics that would lead people to your site/product/service. However, a single line in your signature with a link to your site is allowed. (For signature guidelines please read Rule 18.) It will be the sole discretion of britishexpats.com and its moderators as to what constitutes an advertisement.

No one likes a smug so and so!:rolleyes:

jdr Feb 2nd 2008 6:52 pm

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Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 5876667)
No one likes a smug so and so!:rolleyes:

You know me, I always help with as little commitment as possible, there is only 24 hours in a day, I just steer in the right direction then it is up to the punter to do the rest. :rofl:

Fortaleza Feb 2nd 2008 6:55 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 5876679)
You know me, I always help with as little commitment as possible, there is only 24 hours in a day, I just steer in the right direction then it is up to the punter to do the rest. :rofl:

Like the new avatar??? I always try to be topical!!!!!!

jdr Feb 2nd 2008 6:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 5876687)
Like the new avatar??? I always try to be topical!!!!!!

Got to admit you did have a bit of good fortune. lol
I missed it we were at a 21st birthday but saw the scores at 19 9 I think it was. doh

Fortaleza Feb 2nd 2008 7:03 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 5876695)
Got to admit you did have a bit of good fortune. lol
I missed it we were at a 21st birthday but saw the scores at 19 9 I think it was. doh


You make your own luck in rugby, my humbled English friend :sneaky:

jdr Feb 2nd 2008 7:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 5876709)
You make your own luck in rugby, my humbled English friend :sneaky:

You can say that again.... no don`t bother. ;-)

Fortaleza Feb 2nd 2008 7:09 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 5876717)
You can say that again.... no don`t bother. ;-)


Hey come on!! Let me enjoy this. I was still (just about) in school that last time we won in Twickenham (watched it down the pub, though! ;) )

That said, '"I woz there!" for the last time we beat you in London (Wembley 99, 'home' game as Millennium, being built.)

Oh......Esuri is great. (To bring it back on topic before people complain!)

rugbymatt Feb 2nd 2008 9:06 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 5876650)
Get some of the others to join you john. ;);)

There are some interesting threads about no electricity and doing small building works without permission and having the habitation licences blocked for the rest of the urbanization till it is sorted.

and threads about music.......and donkeys.............and crappy Welsh bikes..............and all sorts of other utter tosh...............

Carol&John Feb 2nd 2008 9:16 pm

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And, "Pictures of Spain" :)
Here's an easy one for you RM (Belated Birthday wishes).


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