Domino

take it that is the same McAfee I had running when I picked up a bug, went to their site to get help but wouldnt let me in because I had a bug
fixed it myself in the end, with a pencil, lots of paper and fingers crossed

Have been running Norton for 4 years no problems, McAfee recently started sending me emails asking if I wanted to go back to them - reported them via Norton as spam and they shut up.,

but keep on trucking, I am learning alot from the xperiences of others in this discussion

Loco Pedro

Here's a selection of faux leather cases with USB keyboards included which will make the W70 7" tablet a very useable mobile pc.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_...ases&x=14&y=18
Just be sure that you get the correct size case for the tablet you buy.

Rambling Rose

Thats lots of great help. Thanks very much.

Rambling Rose

As we only have the one PC which McAfee blocked, we had to take it to an IT shop to get it fixed. When we got it back I accessed their site and it had a whole list of workarounds for fixing the problem including one to use if you no longer had internet access. How you were supposed to get to that without internet access who knows.
As the IT guy wiped our version and downloaded a 30 day trial, I had to wipe that and download the one on our licence to get the unexpired portion which runs out next July.
Even now its not working properly and I've had 2 sessions of internet chat with them and am now waiting for a call back from a 'senior technician' tomorrow.
So I'm certainly not recommending McAfee to anyone!

Domino

how do you get to be a "senior technician" ?
live past your 21st birthday ??

IME they are usually people who only know one system, don't understand anything else, don't want to know anything else. And have a single certificate on the wall to prove it. When conversations start "Why are you still using Microsoft....." I walk out the door.

Loco Pedro

Its a pity you're not closer (to Denia area). I'd sort it out for you.

Rambling Rose

Well that would have been very kind of you. Sometimes I do feel a bit remote up here. One of the reasons we rely on the PC so much. However I'm looking into your other suggestion. Hubby is a bit uncertain about the idea of buying something so cheap, though. He thinks if it looks too good to be true it probably is. Got to be worth the risk for that price though.

Fred James

Can we get back to the Kindle please - I don't think they need anti-virus programs!

Domino

So, now it appears that buying a top of the range Kindle is a good idea, what is the best option for buying

a) buy in UK and bring back after a visit
b) buy in Spain

Loco Pedro

I don't know yet because it hasn't arrived but I'm not sure a tablet pc does either. Certainly, the one I bought 2 years ago running Android 2 hasn't needed it.

Fred James

If you mean by top of the range the 3G version, that isn't available in Spain.

The Kindle Touch and the basic Kindle are available and they are cheaper in Spain at €99 and €129 compared to £89 and £109.

Apart from the price of the 3G version which is £149 it also has a keyboard which makes it much larger but with no increase in screen size. The touch version has an on screen keyboard when required.

Rambling Rose

Sorry Fred - didn't mean to go quite so far off on a tangent. However, one of McFee's products is advertised as being for 'all your devices' and tablets are mentioned specifically as well as phones etc etc.

Of course they are looking to expand their business. However, if a Kindle or any other device gets connected to the internet through a PC or otherwise presumably there is always some risk of a virus?

Domino

if an item is used in isolation then it doesn't need anti-virus but
surely anything that connects to the internet needs anti-virus ? ?
and I would extend that to anything that connects to anything that connects to the internet

Fred James

In theory you could get a virus in a Kindle but there are a few points to consider.

Firstly 99% of the time the only connection to the outside world that you have is the WiFi or 3G link to the Kindle "Whispernet" service to download books and synchronise last page read across various Kindle devices.

It is highly unlikely that anything nasty would come down this route and one hopes that there is sufficient security on the Kindle servers to prevent it anyway.

Secondly, as it is possible to connect directly to the Internet from a Kindle (the latest versions) it is possible that you could get onto a dodgy site but although the Kindle has the ability to browse the Internet I don't imagine it has the ability to download anything.

Thirdly the people that create this malware are only going to write it to target the maximum numbers of potential devices - that's why 99% of the malware is directed at Windows devices rather than Linux or Apple systems.They aren't likely to get into your personal banking on the Kindle!

That said some security companies, such as Avast, are now offering products that will run on Android phones. However I think they are offering those (paid) apps as the potential market is huge rather than in response to a sudden increase in malware on phones which I understand is not yet a problem (but it could be in the future).

Personally I think the threat from malware is exaggerated by those companies who want to sell you their product. There is a far greater risk to your personal assets and way of life from hackers that can get into your email account or from phishing attacks.

Can we keep any further discussion on this subject confined to the Kindle as general malware is a huge subject and would be better served on its own thread if anyone wishes to start one.

MikeJ

I recently purchased the Kindle Touch +3G.
The Kindle keyboard version doesn't have a touch screen - and I think I'm right in thinking that it has the older screen too.