think someone has taken a few of your history books out of the library - to wedge open a door ???

both Spain and England did what they did in the knowledge they had the right of "God and the church" behind them - but they are poor examples because they are both Christian, both with religions stemming from the HRCC, although England was a breakaway from that before the Move to Empire formally started.

If the Turks didn't enforce their beliefs on Europe then how the flying fish did the Great country of Spain become a muslim nation for about 700 years and the 2 Catholic Kings had to fight to get back as a Christian nation ???

Not leaning one way or the other, on your comments, not answering just to be contradictive, but a couple of thoughts.
If a large part of any county, has a Large Christian majority, and they want their christian beliefs to be mirrored in their childrens education, they pay their rates,
Why shouldnt the education authority follow their wishes and needs.
If in an inner city, they have hindu, sikh, muslim, large majority, why shouldnt, the
education authority supply those needs, but still keep to an agreed National School syllabus.

Lets say, and I have no stats for any county, that there is a mish mash of people of
various beliefs, give them a choice.If lets say there are enough locals to fill 3 hindu
Schools, 3 Christian schools, and 2 Muslim schools, why not supply the need.
If financially viable, why not have the 3 or 4 main religions part of many singular schools agenda and syllabus.
Or for the sake of childrens knowledge,religion cant be forgotten or pushed aside, so then why not the idea religions as a social studies subject.

You see, no matter what way we lean including atheists/agnostics.
believing in a religion or having a religious standing is not just spiritual, but it is also
a lifes, society and work path that you believe you should follow, including politics ,one cant seperate them and how the individual interprets them.

The private (public schools) area should look after itself.With some gov. Sponsership...eg Eton, Harrow, Roedean.

Even in UK I still believe majority of people have religious beliefs, and deeply effects
their thoughts and descisions, including ones with either aggresive, arrogant , selfish,
peacefull, passive, insular characteristics.

So there are no misundertandings, on my above statements,
I am an agnostic with atheist strains, who leans towards teachings of buddhism.
I am neither in body, soul or mind , perfect,
but by all is holy I've tried.....ooops!

sounds idyllic, but the problem is the schools in question have been opened up and taken over from the inside, or opened under false pretenses.
They are not sticking to The National Curriculum. They are imposing Non-English/Christian standards for other matters.

IMO if they want to have a single faith school in the UK they obey the rules if they want funding from Central Government. Otherwise they "go back home" to where their second passport came from and do it there and see how little funding they will get - except from Christian Aid and other charities.

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The Turks had nothing to do with Spain, the Turkish empire was growing at the same time as the Moors were being defeated in Spain.
Spain was not a nation when the Moors arrived and defeated the Visigoths.
Spain did not become a nation until the fifteenth century before that it was a collection of warring kingdoms who sometimes allied them selves with the moors.
The Moors came from N Africa, the Turks were a nomad nation from central asia.
Do you really think that Pizarro or Cortez were motivated by religion , they were after gold, slaves and territory as were the Spanish monarchs who supported them.
The same can be said of every nation that seeks an empire.
Religion is just one of the cloaks they wear.

Not sure where you are from originally, but somehow I get the impression that you don't have a very good grasp of today's UK.
IMHO religion comes very low down the list of every day priorities and with regard to the majority of public opinion is probably of little or no importance at all.
I agree with previous posters that religion is best completely separated or isolated from young peoples regular school education.

bet thats what the Romans said when they got slaves to dig gold out of them thar Iberian hills

Another religious murderer walks free from prison. When will this religion be banned in our green and pleasant land?

Yup, even if it was empire building, and monetary gain, Chritians they took their bretheren Into the fight to spread the word, and as the moghul empire spread through India and the rest of Asia, it was on the back of Islam, their troops all fought in the name Of God, Allah, king ,then country just by and by.Destroying on the way many local Religious papers, documents and artifacts with intent.

Cos I like you...I am a Leicester lad.
Yes the English church as lost alot of its clientel so to speak, but IMO many have stepped away from the church, but have still their christian beliefs.
Ive been to Wales, Scotland, both parts of Ireland and rural UK.I still see hear
people expressing their thoughts, no bible punching like before, but still belief.
I get back every 2-3 years.I have a diverse mix of friends and associates.
But I admit , I read between the lines, and express only IMO.

Oh god, I think I shall have an early night...sigh!

As others have said religions were used as an excuse to gain power, closer to home the Portuguese invaded the west coast of India and took over the area now the state of Goa in 1500s, forced conversions burning of Hindu libraries, books etc. as always! Worse when Francis Xavier introduced the Inquisition. Many Christians as well as Hindus fled when he came!!
OH's community having fled to there from Kashmir when Muslims came then fled from the Christian Portuguese, they settled in surrounding areas. it wasn't reclaimed until 1961, although for some years travel to the old temples had been allowed.

But that is all in the past except for regret at the loss of historical documents etc. no ill will is felt towards the Portuguese or Christians (they fled also from the cruelty) not exactly what Jesus had in mind was it?????

Did you say you liked the Bahamas, watch this, worth a watch, take your mind off the rubbish spouted here! http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/e...hamas/2406927/

Oh, so you with your Holier than thou rants about trial by media and trial by BE, already have him tried convicted and condemned.

Though as you have already made clear your post count gives you that right and therefore your views should never be challenged,....... so please accept my most humble apologies.

You don't think the scumbag was guilty? Good for you, still, if he was a Muslim I imagine you'd join in the haters

Not me M'Lord.

You're the one putting your double standards on open display for all the world to see.