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agoreira Mar 20th 2014 8:36 pm

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11182963)
I suspect it's got something to do with how few posters contribute now to the forum compared to a couple of years back

Wonder why that is? Whilst we are in the Plaza de Toros where pretty much anything goes, it's a sub group of Britishexpats/Spain, so people came here for that very reason, they were British with an interest in Spain. Now we have nutters from all over the place whose only interest is to try and convince us via an avalanche of posts that all Muslims and all their practices are good for us. They've probably all moved on to a forum that talks about Spain occasionally.

jimenato Mar 20th 2014 8:45 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 11183670)
Wonder why that is? Whilst we are in the Plaza de Toros where pretty much anything goes, it's a sub group of Britishexpats/Spain, so people came here for that very reason, they were British with an interest in Spain. Now we have nutters from all over the place whose only interest is to try and convince us via an avalanche of posts that all Muslims and all their practices are good for us. They've probably all moved on to a forum that talks about Spain occasionally.

Of course you know only too well that no-one has said nor implied that. You have simply inferred it as it is easy to knock down. It is a fine example of the forum's favourite fallacious argument - The Straw Man - aka putting words into other peoples mouths..

Very obvious and very weak.:yawn:

me me Mar 20th 2014 8:50 pm

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11183639)
I'm more than a little surprised to be honest... Firstly, that hospital must stink, 'cos all foreigners smell remember, and secondly I can't see how they have any time to do doctor stuff during their bomb making and female hating.

Your post has just reminded me, you are quite right.

Two NHS doctors were behind the Glasgow airport attack incident a few years ago.

One can only hope that the planning and bomb making was done in their own time, and not while being on duty and receiving t pay from the taxpayer, ie the very people they were trying to kill and maim.

Bipat Mar 20th 2014 8:53 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 11183670)
Wonder why that is? Whilst we are in the Plaza de Toros where pretty much anything goes, it's a sub group of Britishexpats/Spain, so people came here for that very reason, they were British with an interest in Spain. Now we have nutters from all over the place whose only interest is to try and convince us via an avalanche of posts that all Muslims and all their practices are good for us. They've probably all moved on to a forum that talks about Spain occasionally.

As a British expat with an interest in Spain. I was surprised at all the posts initiated, about Muslims, Immigrants, "Asians" etc. and British Standards.

Hope that doesn't make me a "nutter" (or a quack).

I haven't read any posts indicating that the atrocities of Muslim radical extremists are good for anyone!!!
Haven't read much about Spain either on this part of the forum!!

EMR Mar 20th 2014 8:56 pm

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So now we have to worry about NHS doctors??

If I were you Me Me I would go back uder the covers, todays world is obviously too stressfull for you to cope with.

By the way did you see Newsnight yesterday, a report from west africa where local women are forming groups to resist FGM and seek treatment to repair the damage done to them.
They are facing problems with the authorites but their husbands fathers seem to be supporting them.
Change can happen !!!

Bipat Mar 20th 2014 9:01 pm

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Originally Posted by me me (Post 11183678)
Your post has just reminded me, you are quite right.

Two NHS doctors were behind the Glasgow airport attack incident a few years ago.

One can only hope that the planning and bomb making was done in their own time, and not while being on duty and receiving t pay from the taxpayer, ie the very people they were trying to kill and maim.

Like Harold Shipman, he was more subtle!! and successful.

me me Mar 20th 2014 9:08 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 11183690)
So now we have to worry about NHS doctors??

If I were you Me Me I would go back uder the covers, todays world is obviously too stressfull for you to cope with.

By the way did you see Newsnight yesterday, a report from west africa where local women are forming groups to resist FGM and seek treatment to repair the damage done to them.
They are facing problems with the authorites but their husbands fathers seem to be supporting them.
Change can happen !!!

You and your mentor RM, really need to touch base more often.

First RM blames me for bringing Irish travellers into the thread when it was actually you who did that.

Now you are implying that it was me who brought the subject of doctors and bomb making, when it was actually RM who did that.

wise up lads, it is quite farcical.

I will gladly take my share of the flack for the things I post, but not what others post and pin on me.

I know some of your can get over zealous, due to the fact that your lives are lived through fora, but still a little bit of restraint and care should be taken.

Remember it is not all about the quantity of posts, it's also about the quality.

andyrich666 Mar 20th 2014 9:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11183683)
As a British expat with an interest in Spain. I was surprised at all the posts initiated, about Muslims, Immigrants, "Asians" etc. and British Standards.

Hope that doesn't make me a "nutter" (or a quack).

I haven't read any posts indicating that the atrocities of Muslim radical extremists are good for anyone!!!
Haven't read much about Spain either on this part of the forum!!

Not a nutter, but maybe a bit delusional, I think you must be looking in the wrong place, before you click on the Plaze underneath it states

For discussions about politics, religion or other controversial subjects. Be prepared to see blood spilled in the sand – enter at your peril!

But dont let that get in the way of prodding others, If you go back a step you will find the Spain forum where you can discuss Spain.

EMR Mar 20th 2014 9:13 pm

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Originally Posted by me me (Post 11183714)
You and your mentor RM, really need to touch base more often.

First RM blames me for bringing Irish travellers into the thread when it was actually you who did that.

Now you are implying that it was me who brought the subject of doctors and bomb making, when it was actually RM who did that.

wise up lads, it is quite farcical.

I will gladly take my share of the flack for the things I post, but not what others post and pin on me.

I know some of your can get over zealous, due to the fact that your lives are lived through fora, but still a little bit of restraint and care should be taken.

Remember it is not all about the quantity of posts, it's also about the quality.

I gave travellers as an example ( among others ) of other cultures which
restrict the rights of women.
You of course ignore anything that does not follow your anti muslim obsession.

In your world are only Muslim women all 400million plus of them subject to abuse,illtreatment etc etc.

jackytoo Mar 20th 2014 9:22 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 11183670)
Wonder why that is? Whilst we are in the Plaza de Toros where pretty much anything goes, it's a sub group of Britishexpats/Spain, so people came here for that very reason, they were British with an interest in Spain. Now we have nutters from all over the place whose only interest is to try and convince us via an avalanche of posts that all Muslims and all their practices are good for us. They've probably all moved on to a forum that talks about Spain occasionally.

:goodpost:

Unfairly moderated too...long posts where links would do. Remember this forum moderators delete more than a sentence in Spanish :blink:

Fairy stories about Muslims and trolls Indian OH,s when any intelligent person knows that a white woman marrying into their families is about as welcome as a turd on the living room carpet! It's
CHILDISH, INANE, STUPID, BORING DRIVEL

I blame myself for feeding trolls, not even remotely interested in spending time discussing this claptrap anyway....I'm out of this thread for good.

Bipat Mar 20th 2014 9:26 pm

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11183715)
Not a nutter, but maybe a bit delusional, I think you must be looking in the wrong place, before you click on the Plaze underneath it states

For discussions about politics, religion or other controversial subjects. Be prepared to see blood spilled in the sand – enter at your peril!

But dont let that get in the way of prodding others, If you go back a step you will find the Spain forum where you can discuss Spain.

I don't get your point?? you mean being surprised at the subject? Then No.
Possibly yes delusional and really surprised at the ignorance of some posters about the subjects they keep on and on and on about.

For example not knowing the connection between names and religion:p

Bipat Mar 20th 2014 9:29 pm

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 11183733)
:goodpost:

Unfairly moderated too...long posts where links would do. Remember this forum moderators delete more than a sentence in Spanish :blink:

Fairy stories about Muslims and trolls Indian OH,s when any intelligent person knows that a white woman marrying into their families is about as welcome as a turd on the living room carpet! It's
CHILDISH, INANE, STUPID, BORING DRIVEL

I blame myself for feeding trolls, not even remotely interested in spending time discussing this claptrap anyway....I'm out of this thread for good.

Seriously jackytoo, that needs an apology, you can be forgiven your lack of knowledge but that is going too far.

EMR Mar 20th 2014 9:31 pm

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This from the woman who is either the queen of trolls or so far to the right that even Genghis Khan would not want her in his tent.
Mind you he was an asian ( not muslim ) so I doubt JT would want anything to do with him either.

jimenato Mar 20th 2014 9:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11183746)
Seriously jackytoo, that needs an apology, you can be forgiven your lack of knowledge but that is going too far.

Bipat, J2's trolling - trying to get a rise out of people by posting contentious nonsense. me me's at it as well. Don't let it get to you, it's what they want.

rugbymatt Mar 20th 2014 9:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11183701)
Like Harold Shipman, he was more subtle!! and successful.

You beat me to it. Of course, THEY will ignore this, they will brush it under the carpet in favour of pinpointing some Muslim indiscretion.... I mean, he killed old people right? They were dying (eventually) anyway.

EMR Mar 20th 2014 9:44 pm

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11183758)
You beat me to it. Of course, THEY will ignore this, they will brush it under the carpet in favour of pinpointing some Muslim indiscretion.... I mean, he killed old people right? They were dying (eventually) anyway.

I am surprised that you did not know that he changed his name from Hamid to Harold when he first went to medical school because No white Christian from the UK would behave like this.
He was actually part of a global conspiracy of doctors ( secret muslims ) to kill off the elderly white population .;);););)

andyrich666 Mar 20th 2014 10:38 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 11183769)
I am surprised that you did not know that he changed his name from Hamid to Harold when he first went to medical school because No white Christian from the UK would behave like this.
He was actually part of a global conspiracy of doctors ( secret muslims ) to kill off the elderly white population .;);););)

He did not preach his hatred though did he, he was not radicalising others doctors to do the same.

I don't think that anybody would condone what Shipman did, but take the beheading of the soldier in Woolwich, Many muslims publicly condoned it but many (one person I know personally) also went along the lines of shrugging there shoulders and saying 'well he is just a soldier' as if although terrible its not that bad a deal.

rugbymatt Mar 20th 2014 10:46 pm

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11183826)
He did not preach his hatred though did he, he was not radicalising others doctors to do the same.

I don't think that anybody would condone what Shipman did, but take the beheading of the soldier in Woolwich, Many muslims publicly condoned it but many (one person I know personally) also went along the lines of shrugging there shoulders and saying 'well he is just a soldier' as if although terrible its not that bad a deal.

Awesome! So now all Muslim doctors and nurses, while during the day make people better, by night get changed into their balaclavas and set about bombing people and telling other Muslims to bomb people.... Awesome. Good job no significant numbers of Irish ever became Doctors here eh? Imagine the death toll if they had of!

Bipat Mar 20th 2014 10:54 pm

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11183826)
He did not preach his hatred though did he, he was not radicalising others doctors to do the same.

I don't think that anybody would condone what Shipman did, but take the beheading of the soldier in Woolwich, Many muslims publicly condoned it but many (one person I know personally) also went along the lines of shrugging there shoulders and saying 'well he is just a soldier' as if although terrible its not that bad a deal.

For once I mostly agree with you. But if the bombers in question had preached I really think they would soon have been picked up by other doctors.

One other sad thing about the Shipman case is; the young woman GP who went to the police because she was worried about the number of death certificates she had to (double sign) for Shipman.
She was laughed at by the police. She later developed breast ca. and did not live to see him convicted.

Lion in Winter Mar 20th 2014 11:02 pm

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 11183733)

Fairy stories about Muslims and trolls Indian OH,s when any intelligent person knows that a white woman marrying into their families is about as welcome as a turd on the living room carpet!

Your innate elegance and class shine through.

EMR Mar 20th 2014 11:11 pm

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11183826)
He did not preach his hatred though did he, he was not radicalising others doctors to do the same.

I don't think that anybody would condone what Shipman did, but take the beheading of the soldier in Woolwich, Many muslims publicly condoned it but many (one person I know personally) also went along the lines of shrugging there shoulders and saying 'well he is just a soldier' as if although terrible its not that bad a deal.

I take it you can give examples of " radicalising " muslim doctirs in the NHS.!!

andyrich666 Mar 20th 2014 11:53 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 11183851)
I take it you can give examples of " radicalising " muslim doctirs in the NHS.!!

I never said there was any. Where did I say that ?

Your making something out of nothing

EMR Mar 20th 2014 11:57 pm

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So you agree that the UK has little to fear from the thousands of doctors from overseas be they Muslims.Sikhs etc etc. which without them the NHS would collapse.

andyrich666 Mar 21st 2014 12:07 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 11183895)
So you agree that the UK has little to fear from the thousands of doctors from overseas be they Muslims.Sikhs etc etc. which without them the NHS would collapse.

I would hope seriously that doctors are educated enough not to follow the jihad route or be brainwashed by extremism.

I hope that clarifies my position. I have said before its a sad state of affairs that the NHS relies on imports, when we should be training our own but that's for another day.

Someone once said that all our born and bred doctor's are taken lured away by better contracts elsewhere in the world, but why ? why not the immigrant doctors, tell me why are they not lured away if they meet the same standard ?
Are they not as deserving ?

andyrich666 Mar 21st 2014 12:13 am

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Talking of dcotors > In todays news :-

Two men first to be charged in UK under FGM Act
First prosecutions under Female Genital Mutilation Act in case relating to 2012 procedure at Whittington hospital in London

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...on-men-charged

Bipat Mar 21st 2014 12:33 am

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11183903)
I would hope seriously that doctors are educated enough not to follow the jihad route or be brainwashed by extremism.

I hope that clarifies my position. I have said before its a sad state of affairs that the NHS relies on imports, when we should be training our own but that's for another day.

Someone once said that all our born and bred doctor's are taken lured away by better contracts elsewhere in the world, but why ? why not the immigrant doctors, tell me why are they not lured away if they meet the same standard ?
Are they not as deserving
?

I answered this before, obviously some doctors go abroad because they think life will be better for them personally. "ALL" that is nonsense as you know.

The 'import' of doctors was because of shortage in UK, many were lured to stay in the UK when they came for Post Grad. education. Working conditions in UK would be popular with some, holidays, new scenery and countryside to enjoy. People who appreciate them!!!

Many of the doctors you might think of as immigrants were actually born, bred and trained in the UK. Some of those work overseas also, some as volunteers. (See my post about Lucy Mathen).

Senior doctors also come from overseas to work for a few weeks as volunteers in UK it is reciprocal.

andyrich666 Mar 21st 2014 12:47 am

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11183930)
I answered this before, obviously some doctors go abroad because they think life will be better for them personally. "ALL" that is nonsense as you know.

The 'import' of doctors was because of shortage in UK, many were lured to stay in the UK when they came for Post Grad. education. Working conditions in UK would be popular with some, holidays, new scenery and countryside to enjoy. People who appreciate them!!!

Many of the doctors you might think of as immigrants were actually born, bred and trained in the UK. Some of those work overseas also, some as volunteers. (See my post about Lucy Mathen).

Senior doctors also come from overseas to work for a few weeks as volunteers in UK it is reciprocal.

You can tell the born and bred, as you can speak to them fluently

rugbymatt Mar 21st 2014 1:06 am

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11183911)
Talking of dcotors > In todays news :-

Two men first to be charged in UK under FGM Act
First prosecutions under Female Genital Mutilation Act in case relating to 2012 procedure at Whittington hospital in London

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...on-men-charged

A really good place to have posted that would have been the FMG thread but no, you keep up the xenophobia.

Bipat Mar 21st 2014 1:09 am

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11183950)
You can tell the born and bred, as you can speak to them fluently

You have a point there as there have been some serious language problems with doctors coming over from the EU, as there is no language test allowed for them.

The GMC are hoping to get this changed, this summer when they will be included in the language test that all doctors from outside the EU have to take.

(In that not-to-be mentioned country all medical schools teach in English).

rugbymatt Mar 21st 2014 1:10 am

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11183950)
You can tell the born and bred, as you can speak to them fluently

Would they know the difference between "your" and "you're"? Just asking...

andyrich666 Mar 21st 2014 1:36 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11183986)
Would they know the difference between "your" and "you're"? Just asking...

The more you keep on the more I will learn. I would not mind so much if the language was not English (Amercian) as this site is.

Its not just that Matt, its embarrassing for the client to keep having to ask the doctor to repeat himself/herself, Its only been my last doctor I had that with but I can not complain about his quality of care even though he was glued to the internet the whole time.

Regardless of that I have the same issue with some Scots, sometimes I have to ask them to repeat themselves, sometimes I worry they are gonna lump me one for taking the piss, but I am not.

andyrich666 Mar 21st 2014 1:38 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11183977)
A really good place to have posted that would have been the FMG thread but no, you keep up the xenophobia.

Oops, sorry.

rugbymatt Mar 21st 2014 1:39 am

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11184032)
The more you keep on the more I will learn. I would not mind so much if the language was not English (Amercian) as this site is.

Its not just that Matt, its embarrassing for the client to keep having to ask the doctor to repeat himself/herself, Its only been my last doctor I had that with but I can not complain about his quality of care even though he was glued to the internet the whole time.

Regardless of that I have the same issue with some Scots, sometimes I have to ask them to repeat themselves, sometimes I worry they are gonna lump me one for taking the piss, but I am not.

Just shout at the filthy smelly people...tutt.... They should know better eh?

andyrich666 Mar 21st 2014 1:56 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11184041)
Just shout at the filthy smelly people...tutt.... They should know better eh?

Health is important, patients and doctors can be at risk from a bad standard of English, It may not have been poor English it could have been a strong accent or mumbling.

IamStu Mar 21st 2014 2:01 am

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 11183756)
Bipat, J2's trolling - trying to get a rise out of people by posting contentious nonsense. me me's at it as well. Don't let it get to you, it's what they want.

Much the same could be said of many other posters on here. Some of whom you clearly agree with, others you don´t...
One could liken it to a childs playground though on a par lower, as children are yet to develop such egotistical ideologies and are actually open to learning.

Domino Mar 21st 2014 2:12 am

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11183715)
Not a nutter, but maybe a bit delusional, I think you must be looking in the wrong place, before you click on the Plaze underneath it states

For discussions about politics, religion or other controversial subjects. Be prepared to see blood spilled in the sand – enter at your peril!

But dont let that get in the way of prodding others, If you go back a step you will find the Spain forum where you can discuss Spain.

not much chance of that, only been to Goa and PDT, too scared to make a contribution ?? Or just using PDT as a place to tell everyone how racist they are because people will not give over their country, beliefs and way of life for a foreigner (nor for a Brit that has Gone Native).

:frown:

Domino Mar 21st 2014 2:21 am

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 11183756)
Bipat, J2's trolling - trying to get a rise out of people by posting contentious nonsense. me me's at it as well. Don't let it get to you, it's what they want.

weren't you suggesting a million pages back that I was off my head ??
does that make me a troll as well, or - well, just off my head ??

so I could well now be a White Anglo Saxon Protestant, Racist, Homophobe, Troll, know nothing about Telecoms & Technology, and Off My Head. (or was that originally supposed to be Off With His Head :confused: )

God, I must get myself a business card with all that on, will have to add Bottles of Wine finished and Virgins Fixed.

Do they do a single Pointy Finger for all that lot or do I have to have one for each
:ohmy:

but at least I don't post about the Ukraine in a Gibraltar thread
:rofl:

IamStu Mar 21st 2014 2:33 am

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 11184113)
weren't you suggesting a million pages back that I was off my head ??
does that make me a troll as well, or - well, just off my head ??

so I could well now be a White Anglo Saxon Protestant, Racist, Homophobe, Troll, know nothing about Telecoms & Technology, and Off My Head. (or was that originally supposed to be Off With His Head :confused: )

God, I must get myself a business card with all that on, will have to add Bottles of Wine finished and Virgins Fixed.

Do they do a single Pointy Finger for all that lot or do I have to have one for each
:ohmy:

but at least I don't post about the Ukraine in a Gibraltar thread
:rofl:

Isn´t it laughable and so ironic as to which parties label you those things Dom? :rofl:

Domino Mar 21st 2014 2:48 am

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Originally Posted by IamStu (Post 11184142)
Isn´t it laughable and so ironic as to which parties label you those things Dom? :rofl:

some days I wish my study was big enough to actually :rofl:

life is too short to worry about what they think Stuart, I am too old to worry about them being the ones writing my annual performance report or deciding my salary increase.
I am happy in who I am and have also been told many times "You really do call a spade a spade!!" (Hope no blacks here that may take that as an unintended offence ;) )
I just let them make fools of themselves chasing back and forth from one side of the fence to the others.

And look I haven't mentioned Gibraltar or Ukraine once !!
OOOPPPSSS

EMR Mar 21st 2014 2:51 am

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Sorry guys , not rising to your attempts to " what is it called " troll ".


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