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Jackytoo-- in all seriousness. Why do you say this? Where do you meet Indian Muslims to get this impression.

I am not going to tell you where we live in UK. too much info., but In India in Karwar there is complete mixing shops, neighbours, friends etc. This happens in most of India. (Apart from probably Jammu & Kashmir State). You really are wrong about this Jackytoo, no silly forum 'agro' here, you really are wrong.


http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsde...s-victory.html
Modi is the Hindu (some say nationalist) BJP candidate for the general election.

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Do a bit of research folks, I am not kidding. Why would a white woman know everything about the vast place that is India...la la la etc:lol:

Have we come down on the up train or what.

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Loads of stuff on the internet re, tensions amongst various communities. Makes Brit racism almost seem mild

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/30/wo...pagewanted=all

Stop posting rubbish...we don't believe you. Muslims Sikhs and Hindus do not get along!

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Jackytoo, as a person who has lived in India off and on for the last 45 years, and visited most States, of course I don't know everything.
Neither do relatives born and lived their lives there, I don't know everything about the UK either. Do you?
I do know enough however that what you are saying is nonsense.
Again what has "white" got to do with anything? why this obsession? Or are you a "troll"??

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There are a Billion people living in India, of course there are conflicts between communities, as in any country. In some areas in particular as I said above in Kashmir and yes there it still goes on, past conflict in Gujarat, etc. etc. but your descriptions really are not as it is.
Internet??? against actually living there come on!!??

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Bring out the Troll factor when you have lost the plot. I am just telling people to do some research. Things are not as you say. All this stuff about different Factions of Indians being friends side by side. You can fool some of the people some of the time but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time whatever. It's all there on the internet folks do not take internet trolls at their face value:thumbdown:

Come on, fess up, they don't even mix in Leicester do they, your Muslim friends are in your dreams!

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The sherry should run out soon....

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As you said Leicester, Do you read your own links?
Muslims from several countries have moved there. Of course they don't all get on.

One of my children lives in Leicester, I occasionally shop in Belgrave road, (look it up on the internet!!!!). In order to get some new clothes before going to India.
Really!!! believe what you want, the earth is flat and there are fairies in gardens in Leicester I am sure you will find it on the internet.:lol:

(In Karwar, it takes a time to get IT connection without a lot of fuss, (now there is something worth complaining about), so I go to an internet cafe run by a Muslim girl and her father, (she wears a sari).
When we are there next month I will show her your posts, might give a laugh to all!!!!!).

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I am trying to give it up.

I thought this had turned into a 'newspaper argument' thread? Much better for the blood pressure!!!:eek:

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Not done any research then. Whilst I wouldn't call them friends I worked with all the ethnic minority communities and they were at each other's throats. Indian Hindus and Sikhs and Muslims did not mix. Infact they were at each other's throats. However, if it suits you keep up the illusions and bad mouth anyone who goes against the troll with an Indian OH who knows cking everything;):p

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Jacky isn't really like this, honestly she isn't, in fact, while a bit too right leaning for my political sensitivities she and I have often agreed on a lot of points in the past but something has changed recently, I suspect it's got something to do with how few posters contribute now to the forum compared to a couple of years back and probably because some more right wing, intolerant posters now fly off the handle at the slightest mention of brown skins..... It's all very strange, then even call you a liar now if you try and tell them you have any experience other than fish and chips, roast beef and White Anglo Saxon Britain, you know, like it should be!!!!

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Nice try of a put down. Can't take the truth can you :(

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The truth or your truth Jacky? I'm not even gonna bother discuss this with you or the other one any more,even when you get information you either declare it bullshit, claim it's come from a lefty source, call people apologists or "fluffy bunnies", whatever the crap that means, or you outright tell people they are delusional/lying/misinformed/blind.... Delete as required.

You live in a country that has, for thousands of years, been a mixing pot of every single country on earth, nothing you eat is English, nothing, nothing you do in a day is not influenced by another country and yet your xenophobia, and you're not alone, is alarming for such an intelligent person, you and the other one hide behind women's issues as a shield for your hatred for more than a billion people..... Just think about that for a second Jacky.... More than a billion people.... Including at least 400 million women, the very women you are using as a straw man argument for this thread and many others..... You defend their rights yet despise them for being Muslim.... It's ludicrous!

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Jackytoo I don't need to research about where I live in UK and where we live in India, where OH was born and lived full time until his late 20s, where ALL our relatives live.

The small number of people you were aquainted with in the UK were "at each others throats", I believe you, so what? Many different groups in UK are at each others throats. Doesn't mean that is a general rule.

In our local GP surgery their is a Muslim, a Hindu and a Sikh doctor, I'm sure they occasionally quarrel. To use this small number as an example is as meaningless as your example.
Come on now, truce, just admit you don't know everything:D

(Look up Karwar on the Web. I am getting more and more Homesick for there, with all this talk, just 3 more weeks to go)!!!!:thumbsup:

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That's not the issue...I am saying that Indian Muslims do not integrate with the rest of Indians. I know it and there is proof out there if you wanted to check. Stop extending the issue. You seem to have had something stronger than sherry to come out with that diatribe :ohmy:

All this me and my Indian relatives, not exactly the norm is it. Credit us with at least a bit of intelligence and quit the fairy stories, few of us believe them we do communicate you know. I am off it' so bleeding tiresome:thumbdown:

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....and there we have it.

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The fact that apprx 23% of world population follow islam where do we get the 99%
From. Where has it been proven that Islam is dangerous to the world.

Despots criminals, human trash, have been mis-using, so called holy writings,
Sanscrits,scriptures, scrolls for their own power.
The killing and atrocities perpetrated on women over thousand of years, as come from
Mans actions hiding behind some religious cloak.

Priests and clerical followers as men have hidden behind the masks of Religion and soul cleaning, to commit their evil deeds.
The great Religions are innocent of any mis endemours, but then again Religion is MAN made.

Man has blamed everything for his weaknesses, from the beginning of time,
The sun, the planets, the deities, demigods of wind, rain, blah , blah of ,took the hits, because...
Man cant stand up for himself..

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For me I must say that I find this quite a totally bizzare thing to say, I have no idea what religion my doctor was except that I could never understand a word he said, every sentance I had to ask him to repeat himself, he was more interested in what was on the internet than the patient but regardless of that I just looked up the surgery and it does not mention specific religions of the local practice doctors.

I would have thought they would keep this private and not for discussion for gossips, if it is subject to discussion for gossip then I am astounded in why there is a need for it.

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Their names and their looks make it obvious. This does not mean that they practice their religion of course. However, in this case the Sikh doctor does, he wears a turban!!

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Did the Muslim doctor have a beard ? What is the surgery ?

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Did they smell as well? Foreign people smell don't they?

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Really?

What do they smell of?

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They spit in the tins of tomatoes :nod:

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Ask Bipat, how would I know

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No he doesn't have a beard.
You had better consult Jackytoo, she will tell you some typical Muslim and Hindu names, so that you can tell the difference.
Facial feature differences are not always obvious, but she can have a go.:D
Sarcasm aside, names will certainly tell you their religion.
(There are indigenous doctors at the surgery also.)

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The surgery is............ ?, id like to google it - the names

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Yes some do smell!!! Those particularly from Bengal who use a lot of mustard oil in cooking. Some people (not all) excrete this in their sweat.
Non Bengalis don't like this smell.:ohmy:

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There are limits to personal info. Look up lists of Doctors at hospital or surgeries and you will get a sample of names.

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I know a Spanish doctor you can Google.

His name is Matasanos.

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Personal info > Really, but you knowing and posting religion of your doctors is beyond that ?

Ok then I have to believe that your original post about your doctors religions is not only bizzare but complete bullshit.

Of course though It is perfectly ok for you to use Google to disprove us in what we have alleged ?

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Is he in the Simpsons ?

Id prefer some nurses ;)

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Not theirs, but examples, Kumar is a very common Hindu name, Hamid is a Muslim name, many Sikhs add Singh to their names, what is so strange about knowing any persons religion from the subcontinent, their names will make it obvious????

I think actually you must know this, I presume you are having a joke???

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I did just that :D St. George's, Tooting. Now that's what I call variety...

http://www.doctoralia.co.uk/medical-...ooting-1056133

I wonder which newspaper they all read?

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If you look for extremes you'll find them...
NY write up , used a base truth, and then went cherry picking.Missed out alot of
Street, town, suburb history.
1970s, probably more racial tensions in discos between West indians and Indians/Pakistanis, than white locals. There were the odd scuffles, white locals,
against either WI, Indian,or Pakistanis, often territorial, sometimes ethnic.
Sometime confusing for hard 'working estate' lads going to the dance local,
and watch 2 or 3 coloured factions having a go at each, and calling each other 'BBs'
When Leicester lads went to Nottingham or even skeggie, whites fought together
with their coloured neighbours, for the honour of their city.
Youngsters, had their rumbles at Weekend, probably then worked or shared a teapot,
with the same people, in the week . Dont know now, but Muslims, Hindus, Sihks, jews, Cretiens,Yugos- catholic, orthodox and muslim, did get on together, did mix.
Extremism, too much hard work, temples and mosques did open their doors, for
midweek debate, and get to know nights.Racism of course there was, through all
Levels of society.

In India with all their riots and yes even in Jammu &Kashmir,
20-30 years ago they mixed ,shared buildings private and business.Markets and
Local auto hardware shopping areas(outskirts of town) mixed, shared and made exchanges, used each others shops.Very importantly helped each other in daily needs
and at times of need, more probably than one would see in Europe.
A older muslim friend of mine in Lahore-Pakistan lost their young grandmother unexpectantly,then the mother (wife) suddenly took ill ,their neighbours, 2 sihk, and a family of Hindus, were around immediately offering their help..

Too many posters submise too many things, then decide thats how things ALWAYS
are and work

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Yes, jacky has definitely changed for the worse of late. I hope there's nothing wrong.:(

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I'm more than a little surprised to be honest... Firstly, that hospital must stink, 'cos all foreigners smell remember, and secondly I can't see how they have any time to do doctor stuff during their bomb making and female hating.

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Their food is shit anyway, I mean, all that foreign muck. Much better to eat good honest, British food like.... Err.... Like..... Ummm..... Well anyway, you know what I mean. Proper honest British White food.

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Quite bizarre:blink:

:thumbsup: You said it!!

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Probably lost on the MA's here in the forum. ;) Anyway no Spanish please, whatever next? ;-)

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Your post mentioning St Georges, reminded me of a fascinating story involving the medical school there, an Indian TV presenter, a young Muslim girl and the Guardian newspaper----

About 20 years ago Lucy Mathen qualified as a doctor at St Georges, she had been a presenter with John Craven on children's TV. She was Indian origin, the first as a TV presenter, she left and became a doctor.
A young Muslim girl Samira Ahmed was inspired and wrote to the programme, she later became a journalist writing the article below in the Guardian.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...er?INTCMP=SRCH

Lucy Mathen is now an opthalmologist doing work also abroad, Samira Ahmed a journalist and author.