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IamStu Mar 17th 2014 9:41 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 11178081)
The prohibition of pork long predates any knowledge man had of the transmission from animals.
It was not until at least the 17th century that there was any scientific knowledge of germs etc.
The torah was written centuries before the birth of Christ and probably a thousand years before the Koran.
Simply cloven hooved animals eat grass. pigs will eat anything, literally anything.
Kosher rules do not just relate to meat but to a wide range of foodstuffs.

Man knew if he ate pork, he would die!

EMR Mar 17th 2014 9:50 pm

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So why in other cultures around the world was pork eaten without the problems you suggest.
A lot also has to do with the speed some foodstuffs spoiled and the lack of rescources to preserve foodstuffs.
There is little pint in the 21st century trying to apply our ways of thinking to those who were living in the middle east 1500 years ago.

Domino Mar 17th 2014 10:00 pm

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Can't understand what all this religious hatred is all about,
I thought the idea was to provide children with School Meals that were nutritious, meeting certain standards as laid down somewhere.
Obviously there are certain price constraints that have to be met as in all large scale cooking facilities but nutrition is the key element.

For many kids this is the one and only true meal of the day, of all races and religions as poverty doesn't know such boundaries.

However, as I am sure I have said a number of times before, the UK is The UK, it is made up of 85% indigenous people who trace origins back to the Romans and beyond. The remainder are incomers who should understand that they are the ones who should be integrating and making allowance for others as they require others to make allowance for them.

Pork Sausages in all sorts of dishes are part of the UK, a Christian nation although fast losing the will to bother.

Bipat Mar 17th 2014 10:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 11178112)
Can't understand what all this religious hatred is all about,
I thought the idea was to provide children with School Meals that were nutritious, meeting certain standards as laid down somewhere.
Obviously there are certain price constraints that have to be met as in all large scale cooking facilities but nutrition is the key element.

For many kids this is the one and only true meal of the day, of all races and religions as poverty doesn't know such boundaries.

However, as I am sure I have said a number of times before, the UK is The UK, it is made up of 85% indigenous people who trace origins back to the Romans and beyond. The remainder are incomers who should understand that they are the ones who should be integrating and making allowance for others as they require others to make allowance for them.

Pork Sausages in all sorts of dishes are part of the UK, a Christian nation although fast losing the will to bother.

Agree if people want to eat pork sausages or whatever they want to eat, or don't want to eat it is up to them.
Also as you say make allowance for others; guests or newcomers.

I think you fail to see the irony of your last sentence.
Christianity is the religion of followers of Jesus. Jesus was a brown Jewish person from the Middle East!!!!! The British were converted.

You should have a look at the Expat section-- India/Goa--- lots of posts about where to get steaks, bacon and---sausages. ---India is a majority Hindu nation. :D Not much integrating by expats there!!!

EMR Mar 17th 2014 10:23 pm

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Where do you get the idea that the UK is a Christian nation, the only contact the majority of the population has with the Church is when they go to a wedding or funeral.
What ever opinion you may have of some minorities at least they are genuine when it comes to their religious beliefs.

johnnyone Mar 17th 2014 10:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11177445)
(The thread might concern 'British Standards'--of concern for others.)

I don't think any airline serves peanuts now as the oil can be transmitted by the air conditioning. You don't have to eat the nuts to be affected.

If someone collapses and dies, obviously the flight might be delayed, so therefore the decision not to serve them might be judged proportionate.

Are nuts essential to your enjoyment of a flight??

If I had a peanut allergy that severe I would not fly and would not expect any airline to carry me.
Also how would you get on in bars, restaurants etc. Make a booking and then demand all nut products are removed?
It's all about balance.

EMR Mar 17th 2014 10:29 pm

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You forget that anyone ith a peanut allergy would sue the arse of an airline for putting them in danger,
It is just the airlines looking after them selves.

andyrich666 Mar 17th 2014 10:36 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11178132)
Agree if people want to eat pork sausages or whatever they want to eat, or don't want to eat it is up to them.
Also as you say make allowance for others; guests or newcomers.

I think you fail to see the irony of your last sentence.
Christianity is the religion of followers of Jesus. Jesus was a brown Jewish person from the Middle East!!!!! The British were converted.

You should have a look at the Expat section-- India/Goa--- lots of posts about where to get steaks, bacon and---sausages. ---India is a majority Hindu nation. :D Not much integrating by expats there!!!

There is 2 differences in what you are saying, one is that people can choose what they want to eat also when and where, the other which you often significantly forget it one that is forced on you, the removal of Pork /ham based products from UK schools is not right, its favouring minorities.

Bipat Mar 17th 2014 10:37 pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyone (Post 11178136)
If I had a peanut allergy that severe I would not fly and would not expect any airline to carry me.
Also how would you get on in bars, restaurants etc. Make a booking and then demand all nut products are removed?
It's all about balance.

Bars, restaurants have access to immediate medical help. A plane does not.
All I know is that we do regular long haul flights and the previous nut packets with drinks are no longer served. Get minibiscuits instead.
It is not a problem.
Particularly when the rest of the food is often dire!!!!:D

Bipat Mar 17th 2014 10:40 pm

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11178148)
There is 2 differences in what you are saying, one is that people can choose what they want to eat also when and where, the other which you often significantly forget it one that is forced on you, the removal of Pork /ham based products from UK schools is not right, its favouring minorities.

If something is not provided, it is just not there, nothing is forced on you.
I imagine a lot of things are not provided caviar, chips, etc.etc.

fuchs01 Mar 18th 2014 1:45 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 11178056)
Thats right pigs will eat anything if left to search for their own food.

A bit like humans really......

Domino Mar 18th 2014 3:09 am

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the usual suspects have once again failed at the first hurdle, the operational statement in my post was in bold and yet you missed it.......

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 11178112)
For many kids this is the one and only true meal of the day, of all races and religions as poverty doesn't know such boundaries.

Instead we get .........


Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11178132)
Agree if people want to eat pork sausages or whatever they want to eat, or don't want to eat it is up to them.
Also as you say make allowance for others; guests or newcomers.

I think you fail to see the irony of your last sentence.
Christianity is the religion of followers of Jesus. Jesus was a brown Jewish person from the Middle East!!!!! The British were converted.

You should have a look at the Expat section-- India/Goa--- lots of posts about where to get steaks, bacon and---sausages. ---India is a majority Hindu nation. :D Not much integrating by expats there!!!

The continuing rant about PORK sausages, beef ones are quite nice, lamb you don't see too often, nor chicken - but they are available as alternatives, just depends on how they fit in the "price per pupil" criteria

As to Irony - what the flying fish has the "conversion" of GB to Christianity to do with it when it happened 2000 years ago. Don't see you serving up your distorted and personally hurt by all the racism there is on any other BE forum, not the Italian one where there are a few Converts and expats.
And IIRC you are a Convert yourself

Also you don't seem to be reading the riot act to British Expats in the Goa forum for wanting things that are not common to normal Goan way of life
As I have said before, you are on a personal campaign here on BES, you don't or won't post such continual attacks elsewhere and such an attitude is termed as "trolling" and you are continually inciting other members with your intolerance. I wonder how your OH would feel about that if he knew of it.


As to the other one.....

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 11178135)
Where do you get the idea that the UK is a Christian nation, the only contact the majority of the population has with the Church is when they go to a wedding or funeral.
What ever opinion you may have of some minorities at least they are genuine when it comes to their religious beliefs.

It isn't for you to make the decisions of others, because someone doesn't go to church doesn't mean they don't have their own private moments, and it is surprising how many return to the fold later in life.

And there are many "minorities" (not sure if that is a Race or a Religion but I am sure you will spend 3 pages telling me - except I am one of the 3 Wise Monkeys - the one with his ears covered and mumbling to myself, in despair), who don't attend their church as often as others would like them to, on the day and time allocated.

The last I heard from you you seemed to think there was a good reason for becoming a Gibraltarian (again Race or Religion) because it was suddenly convenient for you after weeks and weeks of rubbishing anything and everything to do with The Rock.

In case both of you have forgotten I will again repeat myself

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 11178112)
For many kids this is the one and only true meal of the day, of all races and religions as poverty doesn't know such boundaries.


EMR Mar 18th 2014 3:26 am

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Being a " Christian " obviously means different things to some.
One thing that is definetly lacking on this forum are " Christian " views.

Fredbargate Mar 18th 2014 3:31 am

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 11178590)
The last I heard from you you seemed to think there was a good reason for becoming a Gibraltarian (again Race or Religion) because it was suddenly convenient for you after weeks and weeks of rubbishing anything and everything to do with The Rock.

Dom I can assure you it is not wanted here, I doubt it is wanted anywhere.

However I doubt it would ever make it, " In exceptional circumstances, the minister with responsibility for personal status may allow a British citizen who has lived in Gibraltar for twenty five years to be registered"

Although judging by the childish posts maybe it is still young enough ( unfortunately )

Domino Mar 18th 2014 3:31 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 11178632)
Being a " Christian " obviously means different things to some.
One thing that is definetly lacking on this forum are " Christian " views.

especially by you.
:(


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