British Expats - British standards ???

I am fully aware that nut allergies can kill. I was just trying to show it's all a matter of proportionality. Where do you draw the line on what to put on a menu? ie You could just have vegan menu but that would also upset some.

I was on a plane once and throughout the flight they would not sell/serve anything with nuts in it as one of the passengers had advised the airline of a nut allergy.
To me that was disproportionate as I have a business partner who can and has been hospitalised if he eats or his food is tainted with shellfish etc. He just works round it and if in doubt does not eat unless absolutely sure.

PS this has probably moved away from the original debate.

(The thread might concern 'British Standards'--of concern for others.)

I don't think any airline serves peanuts now as the oil can be transmitted by the air conditioning. You don't have to eat the nuts to be affected.

If someone collapses and dies, obviously the flight might be delayed, so therefore the decision not to serve them might be judged proportionate.

Are nuts essential to your enjoyment of a flight??

andyrich666

Mar 17th 2014 12:46 pm

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11177416)

I'd just like to point out that you all eat more Kosher meat than you do Halal.... Jews don't eat the hindquarters of any animal they slaughter and that Kosher meat ends up in your food chain.... Completely unlabelled.... Still... Jews ain't dirty Muslims are they so it doesn't matter right?

Would be interesting to see if both were banned as the Danes have done, if I was a ukip mp I'd be supportive of that , surely a win win for us indigenous few

Lion in Winter

Mar 17th 2014 1:05 pm

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11177694)

Would be interesting to see if both were banned as the Danes have done, if I was a ukip mp I'd be supportive of that , surely a win win for us indigenous few

I suppose banning kosher meat pies makes for a stronger party platform than actual economic policy and so on.

rugbymatt

Mar 17th 2014 5:55 pm

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Would be interesting to see if both were banned as the Danes have done, if I was a ukip mp I'd be supportive of that , surely a win win for us indigenous few

Good white Christians you mean? **** your ignorant racism is boring!

andyrich666

Mar 17th 2014 6:12 pm

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Good white Christians you mean? **** your ignorant racism is boring!

Religion is not a race

Bipat

Mar 17th 2014 7:37 pm

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Would be interesting to see if both were banned as the Danes have done, if I was a ukip mp I'd be supportive of that , surely a win win for us indigenous few

I suppose Jesus would be not be welcome in the UK, a brown Jewish, Christian from the Middle East. Or perhaps allowed to visit and the go home again.
But then, I think. he only ate fish.:lol:

jimenato

Mar 17th 2014 7:43 pm

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I have no idea whether or not Kosher, Halal or any other kind of meat is more or less humane than any other - I just don't know enough about it. My concern is that the reasons for some meat traditions are based upon religion - i.e. nonsense - as opposed to animal welfare.

rugbymatt

Mar 17th 2014 8:08 pm

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Religion is not a race

No.... but you're making a race issue. Your posts speak for your character.

Bipat

Mar 17th 2014 8:27 pm

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Actually Hindu, non beef eating is about animal welfare in a way. The cow is seen as a preserver of life, providing milk, curds, etc. keeping babies and children alive. Therefore should not be hurt or killed.
Human failing takes over as usual and many poor things wander uncared for and starving when they could be culled.

(A little like dogs in UK --- 'Mans best friend' and look at the RSPCA adverts).

EMR	Mar 17th 2014 8:38 pm

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Pigs were often seen on battlefields eating human remains so understandably you can see the reason for avoiding pork.

Bipat

Mar 17th 2014 8:51 pm

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Pigs were often seen on battlefields eating human remains so understandably you can see the reason for avoiding pork.

We are back to a previous topic, the Goan pig toilets!!!!:lol:

(Actually I think this is the reason that Muslims do not eat pork, as pigs are known to eat excreta etc.)

EMR	Mar 17th 2014 9:00 pm

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Thats right pigs will eat anything if left to search for their own food.

andyrich666

Mar 17th 2014 9:09 pm

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No.... but you're making a race issue. Your posts speak for your character.

Some things like the killing of animals is important to me and maybe I do not know enough about it as many people do not aswell, however what I have understood of it (Kosher) disgusts me, it is not right that religion which is able to affect the welfare of an animal, and I am not saying that other ways are better.

If you choose to follow religion you can do surely without these types of killing.

The Kosher way is dead against stunning is that correct ? That is enough for me to know that religion should not be involved.

IamStu

Mar 17th 2014 9:20 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 11178041)

Pigs were often seen on battlefields eating human remains so understandably you can see the reason for avoiding pork.

The original reason for there being a ban on swine was that there was an epidemic of swine desease which passed to humans.
Swine was then declared a "dirty" animal that humans shoudnÂ´t touch, so consequently banned.... nothing whatsoever to do with wether or not the animal is dirty.
A modern day version would be "Creutzfeldtâ€“Jakob disease" or mad cows desease, though I guess the Quran has already been written!

EMR	Mar 17th 2014 9:34 pm

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The prohibition of pork long predates any knowledge man had of the transmission from animals.
It was not until at least the 17th century that there was any scientific knowledge of germs etc.
The torah was written centuries before the birth of Christ and probably a thousand years before the Koran.
Simply cloven hooved animals eat grass. pigs will eat anything, literally anything.
Kosher rules do not just relate to meat but to a wide range of foodstuffs.

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