Age of Consent In Spain
Mar 16th 2011, 11:32 am
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Re: Age of Consent In Spain
OK, let's go back to the WHOLE post that has caused this.
OK. Cman says "Adults dont have sex with 13 year olds in Spain. It doesnt happen "
So here we have the scene set, and it is about what happens IN SPAIN.
Rosemary then says she has known Spanish paedos (this is surely to contradict what Cman has said) who see nothing wrong in what they do.
She then asks a triple QUESTION. " (1) So does this mean that it is more hushed up in Spain, (2) is it seen as somehow "normal", or (3) what is the reasoning behind the fact that as you said the media is not obsessed by it.
Now to me, as I have said, this is a question about Spain, and about sexual relations between adults and children.
Had this not been specifically about Spain, JLFS would be right to feel that Spain was being picked out. However, Cman set the scene IN SPAIN, so as her post was directly to that, she can't be accused of any wrong doing.
Adults dont have sex with 13 year olds in Spain. It doesnt happen (you may find a few cases in the media over the past 10 years if you look carefully!). The media are not obsessed with paedophiles and parents generally arent afraid to let their children play outside, or their teenagers to go on nights out when they are 14/15.
When I was working in the UK I often dealt with families where paedophiles had been involved and several of these perpetrators were Spanish and could see nothing wrong with having sex with the underaged or with family members. So does this mean that it is more hushed up in Spain, is it seen as somehow "normal", or what is the reasoning behind the fact that as you said the media is not obsessed by it.
Rosemary
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OK. Cman says "Adults dont have sex with 13 year olds in Spain. It doesnt happen "
So here we have the scene set, and it is about what happens IN SPAIN.
Rosemary then says she has known Spanish paedos (this is surely to contradict what Cman has said) who see nothing wrong in what they do.
She then asks a triple QUESTION. " (1) So does this mean that it is more hushed up in Spain, (2) is it seen as somehow "normal", or (3) what is the reasoning behind the fact that as you said the media is not obsessed by it.
Now to me, as I have said, this is a question about Spain, and about sexual relations between adults and children.
Had this not been specifically about Spain, JLFS would be right to feel that Spain was being picked out. However, Cman set the scene IN SPAIN, so as her post was directly to that, she can't be accused of any wrong doing.
Mar 16th 2011, 11:36 am
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Re: Age of Consent In Spain
where paedophiles had been involved and several of these perpetrators were Spanish and could see nothing wrong with having sex with the underaged or with family members
I don't believe a word anyway, I'd like to hear just how many and it what circumstances the poster worked with paedophiles. How many Spanish paedophiles did you work with in the UK? Their families must have been there too. Of course they all admitted their guilt to you and saw nothing wrong with having sex with family or underaged children.
Me thinks you're living in a fantasy world to score a ridiculous brownie point on an internet forum.
Mar 16th 2011, 11:38 am
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Re: Age of Consent In Spain
OK, let's go back to the WHOLE post that has caused this.
and Rosemary replied
OK. Cman says "Adults dont have sex with 13 year olds in Spain. It doesnt happen "
So here we have the scene set, and it is about what happens IN SPAIN.
Rosemary then says she has known Spanish paedos (this is surely to contradict what Cman has said) who see nothing wrong in what they do.
She then asks a triple QUESTION. " (1) So does this mean that it is more hushed up in Spain, (2) is it seen as somehow "normal", or (3) what is the reasoning behind the fact that as you said the media is not obsessed by it.
Now to me, as I have said, this is a question about Spain, and about sexual relations between adults and children.
Had this not been specifically about Spain, JLFS would be right to feel that Spain was being picked out. However, Cman set the scene IN SPAIN, so as her post was directly to that, she can't be accused of any wrong doing.
Adults dont have sex with 13 year olds in Spain. It doesnt happen (you may find a few cases in the media over the past 10 years if you look carefully!). The media are not obsessed with paedophiles and parents generally arent afraid to let their children play outside, or their teenagers to go on nights out when they are 14/15.
When I was working in the UK I often dealt with families where paedophiles had been involved and several of these perpetrators were Spanish and could see nothing wrong with having sex with the underaged or with family members. So does this mean that it is more hushed up in Spain, is it seen as somehow "normal", or what is the reasoning behind the fact that as you said the media is not obsessed by it.
Rosemary
Rosemary
OK. Cman says "Adults dont have sex with 13 year olds in Spain. It doesnt happen "
So here we have the scene set, and it is about what happens IN SPAIN.
Rosemary then says she has known Spanish paedos (this is surely to contradict what Cman has said) who see nothing wrong in what they do.
She then asks a triple QUESTION. " (1) So does this mean that it is more hushed up in Spain, (2) is it seen as somehow "normal", or (3) what is the reasoning behind the fact that as you said the media is not obsessed by it.
Now to me, as I have said, this is a question about Spain, and about sexual relations between adults and children.
Had this not been specifically about Spain, JLFS would be right to feel that Spain was being picked out. However, Cman set the scene IN SPAIN, so as her post was directly to that, she can't be accused of any wrong doing.
and I think I sorted out the quotes too
Mar 16th 2011, 12:30 pm
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Re: Age of Consent In Spain
Unfortunately, despite my best efforts under extremely difficult circumstances, I have never been 100% right 100% of the time, day after day after day....
The issues involved are seriously complex and have no easy resolution, and certainly no ideal resolution. An internet forum is not the best venue for discussing the topic - even very long posts are too brief and the written word misses important things like tone of voice and facial expression. In real life you can see if someone has misinterpreted what you have said, and you can immediately rescue the situation (but not 100% of the time).
Me, I'm very careful about my phrasing, because I'm sensitive to other people's needs and because when the sh1t hits the fan the first thing it splatters is my face. For some of us, "trouble" is our professional life.
Mar 16th 2011, 2:09 pm
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Mar 16th 2011, 3:30 pm
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Re: Age of Consent In Spain
Just seen on the news that they have broken a paedophile network of some 70,000 members.
It's one of the very few crimes for which I would advocate imprisonment without parole or end for a second offence, if not the first.
It's like some kind of disgusting communicable infection, and if jail ever had a purpose, it would be to quarantine the rest of us from it.
It's one of the very few crimes for which I would advocate imprisonment without parole or end for a second offence, if not the first.
It's like some kind of disgusting communicable infection, and if jail ever had a purpose, it would be to quarantine the rest of us from it.
Mar 16th 2011, 3:35 pm
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Re: Age of Consent In Spain
Yeah...they need waterboarding
Mar 16th 2011, 4:46 pm
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Re: Age of Consent In Spain
Just seen on the news that they have broken a paedophile network of some 70,000 members.
It's one of the very few crimes for which I would advocate imprisonment without parole or end for a second offence, if not the first.
It's like some kind of disgusting communicable infection, and if jail ever had a purpose, it would be to quarantine the rest of us from it.
It's one of the very few crimes for which I would advocate imprisonment without parole or end for a second offence, if not the first.
It's like some kind of disgusting communicable infection, and if jail ever had a purpose, it would be to quarantine the rest of us from it.
Mar 16th 2011, 5:03 pm
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Re: Age of Consent In Spain
Its the only crime that is is impossible to have an acceptable excuse for ,theft somtimes can be acceptable if its to feed your family ,murder if some one is threatening the life of you or your family and so on but there is never an acceptable excuse for paedophilia , a second conviction should equal execution in my book.
One correction. Murder is never excuseable, as by definition it is killing someone for no good purpose, and deliberately.
That's why there are crimes of manslaughter and justifiable homicide/self defence
Mar 16th 2011, 5:35 pm
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Re: Age of Consent In Spain
It's horrifying to think there are that many involved, in any country...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12762333
At least we can now praise the police for breaking this thing up.